red_dug Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I think the board will know exactly where we stand at 1650 today if we lose again. Folk are raging and rightly so. It's not the same as the entitled nature of big clubs fans who expect signings either. These are positions which NEED to be filled. Total incompetence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1810 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Don’t think i’ve ever felt this deflated about Killie, including Gretna away in that. Hard to even get motivated into going today. To go from the highs of Clarkes 18 months to this 6 months later really does leave you feeling despondent. We truly look like a club being run with an amateurish set up and the only way appears to be downwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahamc94 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 It’s been a total shambles since August. We left it to the last minute and ended up signing Osman Sow on loan when he couldn’t get a game in the league below, Harvey St Clair, who’s barely kicked a ball for the first team, Conor Johnson who’s played 4 games and Simeon Jackson who was a complete waste of a wage. The appointment of Fowler has been a total waste time and money. Replacing a rookie manager with another rookie manager that didn’t even want the job. Serious questions need to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, red_dug said: I think the board will know exactly where we stand at 1650 today if we lose again. Folk are raging and rightly so. It's not the same as the entitled nature of big clubs fans who expect signings either. These are positions which NEED to be filled. Total incompetence. I think they need to know where the fans stand no matter what the result. Every win from now until the summer papers over the cracks. Not on the field but off it. They have cocked up two successive transfer windows in fine style. If we get out of this season unscathed it’s more by luck than judgement. We have a small unbalanced squad. It’s going to be even smaller come the summer. We are at that point likely to need maybe 15players. What hope do we have that the board and Fowler will actually be able to give next seasons manager whoever that is a team to put on the park if they strengthen appropriately in a January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, david mcbeth said: Seems like it’s all a bit of a ‘s**tshow’ as someone once said... A simple remark that is defining a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AT11 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 It’s not just 2 abysmal transfer windows, it’s the succession of dreadful managerial appointments over the years as well (Clarke excluded obv.) -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Squirrel Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I try to stay grounded in situations like this but its very hard not to feel complete let down by the club. I thin Bunn and Kabamba are two good players but that's not enough to see us through to the end of season. What I want to know is what happened? Even in the bad days of the MJ era we seemed to have no problem attracting players to the club, why do players no longer want to come to the club? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Atari Moron Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 55 minutes ago, TheShark said: 888 sport I had been checking the odds all week tbf. Never bet against my team before. When I saw the photo of KB’s car, I registered. Was willing to give the club a chance to rectify things with a strong transfer window. Utter incompetence and it’s on their heads now. I’ll be there today though, kicking everything ball. -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldkillie Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Secret Squirrel said: I try to stay grounded in situations like this but its very hard not to feel complete let down by the club. I thin Bunn and Kabamba are two good players but that's not enough to see us through to the end of season. What I want to know is what happened? Even in the bad days of the MJ era we seemed to have no problem attracting players to the club, why do players no longer want to come to the club? Money my friend we don’t have any 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conorsammonbaldyhead Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 County 8/1 - 1 today, at least we can make money off our utter shambles right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 A rare thing that there is at least one free agent I'd like in Tony Watt. I'm guessing Mulumbu is pie in the sky but no harm in asking... Still weird that he's not playing. Can't imagine much doing in that market, but we seriously need to dip into pronto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Im not dead against broadfoot being back, hes at least as good as bruce if fit and more importantly WANTS TO BE HERE which is more than some. Not signing an attacking midfilder is whats really pissing me off. Then that other boy signs for well who manage to get 1.5m for a diddy. #sh*tshow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conorsammonbaldyhead Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, red_dug said: Im not dead against broadfoot being back, hes at least as good as bruce if fit and more importantly WANTS TO BE HERE which is more than some. Not signing an attacking midfilder is whats really pissing me off. Then that other boy signs for well who manage to get 1.5m for a diddy. #sh*tshow The problem is, he doesn't want to be at killie. He just wants to be at a club that gives him an easy ride and his mates are in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Conorsammonbaldyhead said: The problem is, he doesn't want to be at killie. He just wants to be at a club that gives him an easy ride and his mates are in charge. To be fair - his version is that a big part of leaving was that he was getting too much of an easy a ride as the training wasn't hard enough, which MacDonald backed up... And I don't imagine Goodwin would be a pushover either. I'm not happy that he's back but there are ways it can work for us. Sad that it's come to trying to find positives in the return of someone who left like that, but there are some I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Conorsammonbaldyhead said: The problem is, he doesn't want to be at killie. He just wants to be at a club that gives him an easy ride and his mates are in charge. I don't get the impression that Kirk Broadfoot's main motivation in football is being given an easy time by the manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) Suppose we will again never know the real truth , but from the outside did seem work was going on during the day and into the late hours of the window but for various reasons deals were not concluded ........leaving to a huge let down again. Everyone knew since May of weak areas in our team let alone squad, and these in 2 transfer windows have failed to be addressed . Despite money invested in changing around the infrastructure and bringing in both a general Manager And head of football.....this window in context was proved to be one of the worst ..and we did not do the work needed early enough .......not only not improved the vital areas but we are left with fewer players bizarrely Edited February 1, 2020 by Scouser2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, red_dug said: Im not dead against broadfoot being back, hes at least as good as bruce if fit and more importantly WANTS TO BE HERE which is more than some. Not signing an attacking midfilder is whats really pissing me off. Then that other boy signs for well who manage to get 1.5m for a diddy. #sh*tshow No, Motherwell got £1.5 million for a very talented youngster - something that we don’t have in our first team at the moment and they have several of them. They are not third in the league by accident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneyboy Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 The players haven't looked like a team since the first sixteen minutes against a poor hearts side. The transfer window(s) were a joke but the fact we have virtually no players signed beyond this season and they seem reluctant to sign when offered is worrying. The club have failed to build on our best finish in years and totally arsed up the 150th anniversary, come on Billy step up, can't blame Kirsten this window. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass316 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, Chris1810 said: Don’t think i’ve ever felt this deflated about Killie, including Gretna away in that. Hard to even get motivated into going today. To go from the highs of Clarkes 18 months to this 6 months later really does leave you feeling despondent. We truly look like a club being run with an amateurish set up and the only way appears to be downwards. Gretna away. Now that was some night. Haha. One of the worst performances I'd ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scouser2 said: Suppose we will again never know the real truth , but from the outside did seem work was going on during the day and into the lat hours of the window but for various reasons deals were not concluded ........leaving to a hug let down again. Everyone knew since May of weak areas in our team let alone squad, and these in 2 transfer windows have failed to be addressed . Dspite money invested in changing around the infrastructure and bringing in both a general Manager And head of football.....this window in context was proved to be one of the worst ......not only not improved the vital areas but we are left with fewer players bizarrely We already had one of the smallest squads in the league so to come out of the transfer window with it reduced even further is totally absurd. Loaning out Wilson is clear confirmation (if any more was needed) that the people making the decisions don’t know what they are doing. Ross County are coming today - a quick comparison of what they did in the window and their attacking options versus ours shows you what a shambles we are. Erwin is another we could have picked up and we either missed out on or didn’t even try to sign. Wong be at all surprised if he scores today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conorsammonbaldyhead Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, fraz65 said: I don't get the impression that Kirk Broadfoot's main motivation in football is being given an easy time by the manager. My easy time, I meant being one of the boys and being able to influence what happens around the club. Same mould as dicker and SOD. They can all go imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR1869 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) The fact that the Broadfoot signing is connected to Bruce makes it worse in my opinion. If we had signed him off our own initiative (HAHA) that would be bad enough. But essentially our only actual signing (bar Kabamba and Bunn as a free agent) is an old, crocked, trouble making, former player to replace another old, crocked, possibly disruptive player. When AD said he thought the squad was good enough I thought it was just deflection in case we didn’t get deals done but it seems like they may actually believe this. The level of incompetence is the only thing impressive about this window and I fear the worst. Edited February 1, 2020 by BR1869 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppskillie Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, red_dug said: I think the board will know exactly where we stand at 1650 today if we lose again. Folk are raging and rightly so. It's not the same as the entitled nature of big clubs fans who expect signings either. These are positions which NEED to be filled. Total incompetence. If we go 2 down after 20 minutes I think the Board will find out well before 16.50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I don’t often comment on the forums. However I have serious concerns over the running of the club as a whole. It isn’t all about the manager or James Fowler. As a club we are effectively owned by 2 very successful businessmen who have over the years built businesses themselves. No shareholders, partners. Only themselves. They made all the decisions - good and bad, with no one to answer to. They are the decision makers, no one else. It’s in their DNA and as individuals they will never change. They do have the best interests of the club at heart. I don’t doubt that for a minute, but they will never allow anyone else to make decisions. That’s how they have built their wealth and businesses over the years. Continuing with this strategy and business plan will be to the detriment of the club. No one will invest, experienced management won’t take the positions either as they will have little control or say in the running of the club. To sum it up our 2 prominent shareholders have never answered to anyone in a business sense for a very long time and I don’t see that changing any time soon. Furthermore the silence is deafening from Mr Fowler who is meant to be the face of our club on all football matters. Worrying times ahead I fear, with all the current negativity trickling down to the players. Ultimately their confidence will disappear if we don’t get a positive result today. Hopefully we will. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimStripey Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I think everything points towards a total rebuild in Summer. If we don’t have any money because it has been squandered away somehow then we were probably only trying to get short term deals done which would have limited us a fair bit. Smells like we’re planning to try and scrape through this season and start with a blank slate next year. Depressing. We need to get behind them today though. A win is essential. Lose and we’re in deep trouble 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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