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I was pointing out the formal process which has to be gone through before yes, the referee has the final decision.

Thinking about it, it's really at the discretion of the away club as to which kit they wear.

They have to wear their registered first choice colours but can inform the SPFL that they intend to wear a change kit. Unless there is a potential clash of colours, it seems that the SPFL and SFA refereeing department have no cause to intervene. 

There was a season a few years ago when we seemed to hardly ever wear our stripes away from home including at grounds where there was no possible clash of colours. It might have been a red kit.

I think the explanation given was that the players thought the away kit to be lucky.

 

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5 hours ago, dasboag said:

Absolutely this.

 

What we should be doing every January is taking in a few frees and loans to bolster and balance the squad for the rest of the current season while also offering pre-contracts to form players in the lower leagues - thats the type of speculation that will work for us as a model for our club.

Some wont make it and can be moved on via development loans etc - now and again we'll strike gold -either as a long-term player for us or a sellable asset

I'd be looking at someone like Kevin O'Hara at Alloa just now, starting to come on to his game at 21.  Played 27, scored 9 so far this season.

Might work out, might not - but right now its low-risk

Agreed. Also penrice at thistle, Forrest at Ayr, sibbald at Livingston. We have had too many loan players last few years 

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14 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:

Motherwell (who are now essentially having the season we had last year, round about the same points now), are an interesting comparison. Had a look at the business they did towards the end of last season and early summer, as seem to remember them being well ahead of the game. They brought in:

Declan Gallagher (pre-contract April), Liam Polworth (pre-contract April) Jack Carroll (April), Casper Sloth! (May), Jermain Hylton (May), Chris Long (early June), Sherwin Seedorf (early July) Devante Cole (early July). All of these players, bar the unfortunately named Sloth have been key for them this season.

In other words they hit the ground running, by pre-season the squad was in place, targets were identified really early and they were all set to go. Significantly, they have a Head of Recruitment, Martin Foyle, who had been manager of Port Vale, Hereford and Southport among others, a man not only with a good range of managerial experience but had also worked as Head of Recruitment for Northampton, so had experience in that role as well, and presumably, a decent contacts book. In addition they sorted out their management team by getting Robinson and Lasley tied up on improved contracts as soon as the season finished.

Looking at all that it is clear to see what Well have built this seasons success on....a proper structure, with early recruitment. Of course we are talking about a similar sized club, with comparable resources, but it is night and day from how we have operated since the summer.

Can’t argue with any of that

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1 hour ago, Jedi2 said:

Motherwell (who are now essentially having the season we had last year, round about the same points now), are an interesting comparison. Had a look at the business they did towards the end of last season and early summer, as seem to remember them being well ahead of the game. They brought in:

Declan Gallagher (pre-contract April), Liam Polworth (pre-contract April) Jack Carroll (April), Casper Sloth! (May), Jermain Hylton (May), Chris Long (early June), Sherwin Seedorf (early July) Devante Cole (early July). All of these players, bar the unfortunately named Sloth have been key for them this season.

In other words they hit the ground running, by pre-season the squad was in place, targets were identified really early and they were all set to go. Significantly, they have a Head of Recruitment, Martin Foyle, who had been manager of Port Vale, Hereford and Southport among others, a man not only with a good range of managerial experience but had also worked as Head of Recruitment for Northampton, so had experience in that role as well, and presumably, a decent contacts book. In addition they sorted out their management team by getting Robinson and Lasley tied up on improved contracts as soon as the season finished.

Looking at all that it is clear to see what Well have built this seasons success on....a proper structure, with early recruitment. Of course we are talking about a similar sized club, with comparable resources, but it is night and day from how we have operated since the summer.

Spot on. 

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5 hours ago, Jedi2 said:

Motherwell (who are now essentially having the season we had last year, round about the same points now), are an interesting comparison. Had a look at the business they did towards the end of last season and early summer, as seem to remember them being well ahead of the game. They brought in:

Declan Gallagher (pre-contract April), Liam Polworth (pre-contract April) Jack Carroll (April), Casper Sloth! (May), Jermain Hylton (May), Chris Long (early June), Sherwin Seedorf (early July) Devante Cole (early July). All of these players, bar the unfortunately named Sloth have been key for them this season.

In other words they hit the ground running, by pre-season the squad was in place, targets were identified really early and they were all set to go. Significantly, they have a Head of Recruitment, Martin Foyle, who had been manager of Port Vale, Hereford and Southport among others, a man not only with a good range of managerial experience but had also worked as Head of Recruitment for Northampton, so had experience in that role as well, and presumably, a decent contacts book. In addition they sorted out their management team by getting Robinson and Lasley tied up on improved contracts as soon as the season finished.

Looking at all that it is clear to see what Well have built this seasons success on....a proper structure, with early recruitment. Of course we are talking about a similar sized club, with comparable resources, but it is night and day from how we have operated since the summer.

Spot on 

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7 hours ago, Jedi2 said:

Motherwell (who are now essentially having the season we had last year, round about the same points now), are an interesting comparison. Had a look at the business they did towards the end of last season and early summer, as seem to remember them being well ahead of the game. They brought in:

Declan Gallagher (pre-contract April), Liam Polworth (pre-contract April) Jack Carroll (April), Casper Sloth! (May), Jermain Hylton (May), Chris Long (early June), Sherwin Seedorf (early July) Devante Cole (early July). All of these players, bar the unfortunately named Sloth have been key for them this season.

In other words they hit the ground running, by pre-season the squad was in place, targets were identified really early and they were all set to go. Significantly, they have a Head of Recruitment, Martin Foyle, who had been manager of Port Vale, Hereford and Southport among others, a man not only with a good range of managerial experience but had also worked as Head of Recruitment for Northampton, so had experience in that role as well, and presumably, a decent contacts book. In addition they sorted out their management team by getting Robinson and Lasley tied up on improved contracts as soon as the season finished.

Looking at all that it is clear to see what Well have built this seasons success on....a proper structure, with early recruitment. Of course we are talking about a similar sized club, with comparable resources, but it is night and day from how we have operated since the summer.

Send this in an email to the board please and CC Fowler In 

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The Motherwell example shows what we could have done had the board not buried their heads in the sand and assumed that SC would be here for years. They have also brought through a number of good young talents in recent years that they have been cashing in on. All of this on a total budget that is probably less than ours. 
I saw Martin Foyle playing for Port Vale in the early 1990s. I had no idea he was at Motherwell now. He certainly has a load of experience in the game especially the lower leagues in England. 

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8 minutes ago, DuncD said:

Where there are bargains to be had despite the amount of negative abuse those leagues get on here 

The leagues below L2 ARE pish but there are still players at that level who can step up. Same as in Scotland - below Championship the quality drops off but good scouting can still produce the odd gem.

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8 hours ago, Jedi2 said:

Motherwell (who are now essentially having the season we had last year, round about the same points now), are an interesting comparison. Had a look at the business they did towards the end of last season and early summer, as seem to remember them being well ahead of the game. They brought in:

Declan Gallagher (pre-contract April), Liam Polworth (pre-contract April) Jack Carroll (April), Casper Sloth! (May), Jermain Hylton (May), Chris Long (early June), Sherwin Seedorf (early July) Devante Cole (early July). All of these players, bar the unfortunately named Sloth have been key for them this season.

In other words they hit the ground running, by pre-season the squad was in place, targets were identified really early and they were all set to go. Significantly, they have a Head of Recruitment, Martin Foyle, who had been manager of Port Vale, Hereford and Southport among others, a man not only with a good range of managerial experience but had also worked as Head of Recruitment for Northampton, so had experience in that role as well, and presumably, a decent contacts book. In addition they sorted out their management team by getting Robinson and Lasley tied up on improved contracts as soon as the season finished.

Looking at all that it is clear to see what Well have built this seasons success on....a proper structure, with early recruitment. Of course we are talking about a similar sized club, with comparable resources, but it is night and day from how we have operated since the summer.

Absolutely.

Motherwell do their business very well. Over the past few years they have unearthed a good number of unfashionables who really did a job. All areas of the pitch. Didn’t know about the Head of Recruitment- very interesting.

That said, they lost over £400k last year. I don’t know the background to the losses but it’s a significant amount.

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Martyn Corrigan scouts for Well too. 

Foyle’s “sleeping in his car” MO sounds a lot like the guy Marsella who did some scouting for us around the Clark/ McCulloch era, and who might have been responsible some of their successful signings. 

 

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8 minutes ago, NorfolkG said:

Absolutely.

Motherwell do their business very well. Over the past few years they have unearthed a good number of unfashionables who really did a job. All areas of the pitch. Didn’t know about the Head of Recruitment- very interesting.

That said, they lost over £400k last year. I don’t know the background to the losses but it’s a significant amount.

Had the Turnbull transfer gone through they’d have made a significant profit although you can’t rely on that happening every year. 

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5 minutes ago, piffer said:

Had the Turnbull transfer gone through they’d have made a significant profit although you can’t rely on that happening every year. 

Very fair point. I feel feed like that should only ever be a bonus. Like with us: I hope the Taylor money was not factored into a break-even budget.

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