fraz65 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, drmurray said: This problem has been in front of us since the first SPL game... No options up front, never replaced Stewart or Jones. With no scouting or backroom organisation we just didn't recruit ANY talent in an attacking sense. This is not AA's fault... It's the boards. They need to back him heavily in January. With at least an attacking midfielder and a center forward or we will end up slipping right down the league with Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hibs miles ahead us. It's going to be a long Christmas period playing they we are right now. Bowie has completely rejuvenated the club. Four years ago we were shipping goals under Gary Locke and MJ was still involved in the day to day running. We're now on the most secure financial footing we've been on, possibly in decades, have a new football director in place and are on the back of our best ever SPL finish. When you refer to Bowie "stepping up", what exactly do you mean? Edited December 7, 2019 by fraz65 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 If anyone has failed to "step up" it's the people of Ayrshire. Despite having SSC in charge and finishing third, home attendances barely went beyond five thousand and season ticket sales were disappointing. If we had seen a noticeable increase in the latter, player recruitment over the summer would have been easier. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big sexy Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, fraz65 said: If anyone has failed to "step up" it's the people of Ayrshire. Despite having SSC in charge and finishing third, home attendances barely went beyond five thousand and season ticket sales were disappointing. If we had seen a noticeable increase in the latter, player recruitment over the summer would have been easier. Crowd numbers have increased 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, fraz65 said: If anyone has failed to "step up" it's the people of Ayrshire. Despite having SSC in charge and finishing third, home attendances barely went beyond five thousand and season ticket sales were disappointing. If we had seen a noticeable increase in the latter, player recruitment over the summer would have been easier. Absolutely this for me. Can’t have home crowds around 4K and demand the owner steps up. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Beaker71 said: Did rory s**t in your soup, or pump your maw? Jesus man give him a break, he is far from the worst and most certainly isnt the issue at the moment. That’s a mature response for a grown man. So, we’ve to give one player a break but slate others? Wind your neck in. There wasn’t one good performer today but the Rory brigade are quick to jump on the “Millar is s**te and WhAt DoEs BrOpHy Do?” Band wagon. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Big sexy said: Crowd numbers have increased They are nowhere near the levels of the late '90s though. Considering the performance of the team last season, I would have expected a much larger increase. If it hasn't happened in the last couple of seasons, it's not going to happen and we'll have to measure our expectations accordingly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, fraz65 said: They are nowhere near the levels of the late '90s though. Considering the performance of the team last season, I would have expected a much larger increase. If it hasn't happened in the last couple of seasons, it's not going to happen and we'll have to measure our expectations accordingly. Lot of factors for that. Price, other interests, easier for football on tv. We were spending outwith our means in 90s. Etc. Crowd has gone up 2000 or so in a couple years. With an average in the 3000s to almost double is pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big sexy Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, fraz65 said: They are nowhere near the levels of the late '90s though. Considering the performance of the team last season, I would have expected a much larger increase. If it hasn't happened in the last couple of seasons, it's not going to happen and we'll have to measure our expectations accordingly. Doesnt help that ticket prices are so dear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 C The club needs leadership 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killied Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Sow and Jackson were total panic options and not good enough for the level we're aiming at. Hopefully we can sort it out in the window or I feel we will be moving in the same direction... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: C The club needs leadership Spot on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 bowie has done a great job. Manager never brought in the required players in the window. That cant be Bowie's fault -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Burghktid said: Noone wants to hear this. We’ve made a major blunder too with the manager. We’ve had sprinklings of decent football at best. All of which is because we have the same spine of the team from last season. There is unrest in the background. That said the point is correct. Hardly any shots on goal and one on target. Says it all. Especially if you look at stats from last year. The new manager was brought in 1 for his experience and 2 because of who he might be able to lure to Killie because of who he is. Oh, the unrest rumours. I knew they'd be back after the next defeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Time, he flexes like a whore Falls wanking to the floor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Scooby_Doo said: Oh, the unrest rumours. I knew they'd be back after the next defeat. I'm waiting for the inevitable "Alex Dyer has been sidelined" one. You could play Killie defeat bingo on here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, killie1961 said: Spot on And Dyers off next year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angus Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Big sexy said: Lets be honest liam millar has been rank rotten Never been the same player since he was taken right out the game at Hamilton,start of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rml Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, andy123 said: bowie has done a great job. Manager never brought in the required players in the window. That cant be Bowie's fault Who’s that lying on the carpet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfan Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, killie1961 said: And Dyers off next year Tell us how you know that ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 12 hours ago, The Killie Trust said: That'll be because he's injured...... Ok, he may have been injured yesterday but St Clair, like the other two uninspiring forward signings, he has done absolutely nothing and not shown any signs that it will change any time soon. All three have been a waste of time. Better to have signed one half decent striker than the three of them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFC Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Guff92 said: We haven’t been sussed. We’ve played the same all season, luckily 5 different opponents have played very poorly and handed us wins. The squad is abysmal. Sending Kiltie out on loan whilst we sign St Clair ON LOAN makes no sense at all. People settling for average players in attacking positions. Loss of Findlay is huge, we should have had reasonable cover. Bruce isn’t actually that good but he’s been praised whilst others are scrutinised. The board have failed us. It’s AA I feel sorry for. Yet again you get the gobs**tes coming out after a loss saying that there’s unrest in the camp, bore off unless your going to give us actual facts. Nobody is going to give you "actual facts" as that could lead to loss of job. I don't think it is any secret that there are issues within, but to ask for sources etc, just isn't going to happen. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 hours ago, angus said: Never been the same player since he was taken right out the game at Hamilton,start of the season. Yep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFC Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Scooby_Doo said: Oh, the unrest rumours. I knew they'd be back after the next defeat. They have never been away... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmurray Posted December 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 hours ago, fraz65 said: Bowie has completely rejuvenated the club. Four years ago we were shipping goals under Gary Locke and MJ was still involved in the day to day running. We're now on the most secure financial footing we've been on, possibly in decades, have a new football director in place and are on the back of our best ever SPL finish. When you refer to Bowie "stepping up", what exactly do you mean? In stepping up I mean supporting the manager in refreshing the squad in January... Not wholesale changes but potentially 2 additions in the attacking area. The structure in the club got sorted in November with Fowlers appointment... But the shambles that was going on for a number years when Billy has been in charge. One employee left and we appear to have missed nearly all our signing targets. We lost a lot of attacking options in the last 12 months, with little or no plan to to secure replacements. I have heaped praise on here for BB and directly to him face to face. But there were issues that the board owned resolving that have effected us this season. It's never ideal to get players in January... But failings last summer mean we need to give AA some additional options to enable us to score goals... Which has been a problem all season. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFC Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Guff92 said: Fine by me, only if we can be honest that Rory McKenzie isn’t a very good footballer? Fairs fair. You are entitled to your opinion, fair and square, but for me your comment is just bollocks at worst and not understanding the game at best! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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