Blackislekillie Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pedro'sBrither said: What else can we do? Ask for transparency and honesty from the board for a start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Beaker71 said: Its no funny if I need to explain it. Oh dear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, david mcbeth said: Don’t get it. Can you fill me in? No, it would take Seven Days for you to get it, so I'm Walking Away. Bo Selecta!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 My wife asked if he had lost the changing room. Peeking through the curtains in M&S perhaps ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Not out of a job for long. "Delivery for Sue Porter!" Edited December 18, 2019 by skygod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Going down like a bag of cold sick outside the Killie World. “team in fifth place sack manager”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Killiekranky said: He is our Director of Football, please try and keep up. He’s not though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 A shambles. Admittedly upon walking out of RP after the CQ game I said 'he needs to go'. However, as others have said, after calming down about a month later, thought, we need to give this a go, after all, someone who has the credentials he has, working at some of the biggest clubs in the world, and the Italian national side, can't be that bad. As others have also said, player power is a worry for any club...maybe they want to go back to Gary Locke, after all he was a great social convener. Holt to me is an appointment you make if you want to 'just' stay in the League and hover around 8th/9th. Not an appointment to push on, and try to establish the club in the top 6 (or even better). Clearly the club had a manager in Clarke who only appears every 50 years or so, it is next to impossible to replicate that sort of success.....look at Aberdeen post Ferguson, Dundee Utd post McLean...both nowhere near these levels due to 'one off managers'. As others have suggested as well, the board oversaw a shambles of a summer, they must have known that Clarke was off pretty much as soon as McLeish was sacked, yet dithered over the appointment, when you announce that you have the 'best manager in Scotland' in place, to sack him a few months later while sitting 5th because the players have never taken to him..... At any club where the players are in a position of essentially choosing the manager, trouble is in store. A lot of the same players didn't exactly make a roaring success of it under Lee McCulloch, to say the least. The board have now set out their stall it seems....ensure that the players are 'happy' with the next appointment and willing to work with the new man....not sure if I was a manager if I would want the dressing room running the club, rather the boardroom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyc1982 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: What about the folk that said he’d never be sacked or slagged off folk that referred to issues behind the scenes as being no marks etc. Mite hassle than it is worth posting on here at times. Hiya. Genuinely took me by surprise. Well done, you’re right. Bask in the glory. Must feel magic. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girdle1869 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) If the players have downed tools to get rid of the manager then that's scandalous. Waiting for the full story to unravel but if that is the case then its very worrying. Edited December 17, 2019 by Girdle1869 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 STV reporting invites to AA's pre Motherwell press conference on Thursday were sent out an hour before the statement saying he was sacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve101 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, piffer said: STV reporting invites to AA's pre Motherwell press conference on Thursday were sent out an hour before the statement saying he was sacked. Perhaps he's initiated the release? Asked for it? Hopefully we hear the real reasons soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy2012 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, NorfolkG said: To be fair, we don’t know what training is like. I though AA came across as a nice, decent guy. But his training might have been a chore. It’s these guys’ working lives and they are entitled to a certain level of job satisfaction. That said, the conduct of some has been unprofessional. Like every other employee they do as their told or get shown the door. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneyboy Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Blackislekillie said: Ask for transparency and honesty from the board for a start. If only we had a fan on the board... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, cammy2012 said: Like every other employee they do as their told or get shown the door. I agree. From the outside looking in, I have real sympathy for AA. I’m only saying that we don’t - and shouldn’t - know the exact ins and outs of training etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy2012 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, LS180312 said: I feel for Alessio. The biggest problem has been the group of players - both attitude and ability. Clarke left a group that had been struggling to score since January and the board did not sign the attacking players required. Dicker and Power - transformed our midfield, we’re no longer the pushovers we used to be. However I also think they’re part of the problem this season. Dicker has been one of our best players but Power especially offers no goal threat and his general play has been much slower than normal. I hope we get a new manager in soon and I also hope we’ve identified young, attacking midfielders. Motherwell, Livi, St Mirren, Ross County have played with a pace in midfield that we couldn’t cope with. Agree wirh squirrelhumper, players better buck up their ideas now as they are to blame for this mess Likewise. Is it a case of a set of players who are simply not up technically or mentally to grasp what AA was trying to do. Level of intelligence of most British and Irish footballers leaves a lot to be desired compared to their continental counterparts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackislekillie Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Blair K said: Sounds very similar to what happened to Ranieri at Leicester players downed tools After winning them the "best league in the world" (copyright Skysports). Some of our players need to take a long, hard look in the mirror after this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killieboykfc Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, cammy2012 said: Likewise. Is it a case of a set of players who are simply not up technically or mentally to grasp what AA was trying to do. Level of intelligence of most British and Irish footballers leaves a lot to be desired compared to their continental counterparts. This is kinda how I feel. Was saying this to my dad last night, when you look at Brighton with Graham Potter that is a set of players who have embraced new ideas with open arms but I can’t help feel it’s because a lot of their players are foreign and maybe have experience of a more technical game as opposed to in Scotland where most of our players are from home nations and are brought up with s**te coaching and a very “British” way of playing. it’s a shame really but I think it’s just the way it is and don’t know when the mentality will change up here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie1 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) no your right I dont but I know an Idiot when I see one Edited December 17, 2019 by charlie1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drmurray Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, cammy2012 said: Likewise. Is it a case of a set of players who are simply not up technically or mentally to grasp what AA was trying to do. Level of intelligence of most British and Irish footballers leaves a lot to be desired compared to their continental counterparts. This is I think about the most likely reason. Taking a coach who has worked with world class players and teams. Used to working with talent that understood what was asked, professional enough to work outside just the normal sessions. I think if it worked, players would have ended up better as individuals and improved their careers. Unfortunately it's really hard to teach old dogs new tricks... Generally sorry for AA... He was in an impossible situation... Players loved previous manager, but we never gave him a chance after the club screwed up the summer... It wasn't AA who had no friendlies arranged, made personal mistakes CQ game, failed to sign any attacking options. Tonight I embarised as a killie fan... What ever the reasons for sacking AA.. It's a joke on how we handled the last 6 months as an organisation. It will be interesting what AA says back in Italy... Before he starts coaching in Seria A again. I'm sure the players there will appreciate him. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All the Wine Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Or maybe the jump from coach to actual manager was too much for him and he wasn't cut out for it? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppskillie Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Board have blown this big time. They made the initial appointment, talked it up, when many were not so sure about it. So its on their heads for it not working. Next appointment is massive now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblue Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Sorry if mentioned elsewhere haven’t looked through the full thread but an STV reporter says that they received an email of an invitation to the press conference on Thursday with Alessio for saturdays game. Then 1 hour later got another that said you better come in he’s been sacked. That makes it sound like it’s a very spur of the moment decision. Strange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyc1982 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, killieblue said: Sorry if mentioned elsewhere haven’t looked through the full thread but an STV reporter says that they received an email of an invitation to the press conference on Thursday with Alessio for saturdays game. Then 1 hour later got another that said you better come in he’s been sacked. That makes it sound like it’s a very spur of the moment decision. Strange. Wonder if the media team were just briefing as routine and weren’t aware of the unfolding events 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, killieblue said: Sorry if mentioned elsewhere haven’t looked through the full thread but an STV reporter says that they received an email of an invitation to the press conference on Thursday with Alessio for saturdays game. Then 1 hour later got another that said you better come in he’s been sacked. That makes it sound like it’s a very spur of the moment decision. Strange. That is the impression I formed based on no inside knowledge whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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