chubbs Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, killie89 said: Not sure how you quantify “good” for a small club like Livi in the Premier League. To me anybody that can have them sitting comfortably away from the relegation zone two years in a row is doing a pretty good job, even if the football isn’t great to watch. Martin Canning it is then ..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtuocity Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Initial shock followed by a wee bit relief if truth be told. No offence to the guy- he seemed like a good man but it is now clear that he was unable to lead this team. You can argue the players should follow a manager's instructions, or that it is the manager's job to lead them effectively. Don't care about this debate right now- there are immediate issues to be concerned with. I think there are better managers out there we could get, but they will need to come in with the management skills to command the respect of the players. There will undoubtedly be calls for the board to spill their guts about what has gone on behind the scenes, but I reckon we'll need to be realistic, get behind the team on Saturday and hope for a good appointment, followed by some savvy signings in January. Oh to be a Killie fan! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: Has Donati gone too? Him and Dyer in the dug out on Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie89 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, chubbs said: Martin Canning it is then ..... Fair point. I still think Holt has a bit more about him than Canning. Livi have been comfortably clear of relegation, Accies were never like that under Canning - they always just did enough to scrape their way to survival. Plus Holt has plenty of other experience from down south that I would suggest makes him a better coach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: Has Donati gone too? Bloody hope so. Only there as a translator. Should have asked Riccardo from the forum. Though he probably would have wanted more money Edited December 17, 2019 by Trojan76 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: Him and Dyer in the dug out on Saturday. Cheers. It'll be interesting to see if he's next out the door or if he's still part of future plans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dasboag Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Let’s be clear here, this is madness top to bottom The board have not backed the manager in any way and elected to succumb to player power. As others have mentioned this rarely works out well. AA might not have been the answer, but we’ll never know now- no chance given by players and board alike. They have backed a squad of players who achieved great things for us under Clarke last year, but are amongst the oldest in the league with some key players WELL into their thirties. Theres also the issue that most are not contracted beyond the summer. It doesn’t seem like long-term thinking. Im a huge fan of AD but at the same time we can’t have a long-term appointment made based on “the players like him”, when most could leave in the summer anyway. Unless the whole squad buck up their ideas attitude-wise, and start playing for the fans and each other again it’s going to be a difficult second half of the season, followed by a complete rebuild in the summer after they all feck off like mercenaries. Our strength in the last couple of years has been the consistency in the team, which we didn’t have for the several years before that. If we’re not very careful here - it’s what we’ll return to. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardee MacDennis Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, chubbs said: Martin Canning it is then ..... this, i'm sorry to say but if holt wasn't connected to killie i don't believe anyone would want him as the next manager 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackislekillie Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Best manager in the league you said Billy? We'll never know now, will we? You've given in to prima donnas who could barely kick a ba' until Clarke and Dyer got hold of them. I'm f**kin raging at this the more I think of it. Laughing stock of Scottish football yet again, and rightly so. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, gjkillie007 said: Jamie Fowler has zero experience as a director of football. Why do people seem to be putting trust in him. Because he was a club stalwart and many people think with their hearts and not head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Chardee MacDennis said: this, i'm sorry to say but if holt wasn't connected to killie i don't believe anyone would want him as the next manager 100% agree .... and the Pascali comments are even worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 AGM should be fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longballexpert Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Robert said: Shambles. The players have now got what they want. They had better turn up on Saturday. Spot on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTumnus Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Suprised at this but not disappointed at the same time. Three reasons ... We have been dire to watch for a while (Hearts excepted), plenty of possession football with no real desire to get into the box. He played one up front at home against St. Johnstone , who were bottom of the league. He sent out adequate (average)players on loan and replaced them with adequate (average) players on loan. Good luck to him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beaker71 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, BluenwhiteARMY said: Absolutely no need for this, you complete knob. AA was a decent guy, whi has been badly let down by the board and his players, he isnt blameless bit this is out of order. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Killie1984 said: Very much the reason why Scotland haven't qualified for a major tournament since France '98 Most of our team aren't Scottish though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrTumnus said: Suprised at this but not disappointed at the same time. Three reasons ... We have been dire to watch for a while (Hearts excepted), plenty of possession football with no real desire to get into the box. He played one up front at home against St. Johnstone , who were bottom of the league. He sent out adequate (average)players on loan and replaced them with adequate (average) players on loan. Good luck to him. Agree -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie89 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chardee MacDennis said: this, i'm sorry to say but if holt wasn't connected to killie i don't believe anyone would want him as the next manager No, I’m sorry but this comparing Gary Holt to Martin Canning is utter rubbish. Under Holt, Livi have beaten Celtic and Rangers, hammered Hearts 5-0, gone up to Dingwall and won 4-1, were the only team out with the big 5 city clubs to beat Killie under Clarke and have been nowhere near relegation at any point. Hamilton under Canning were a million miles away from that - they were completely dire, somehow scraping enough points from the other crap teams to enable them to stay in the league. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, virtuocity said: Initial shock followed by a wee bit relief if truth be told. No offence to the guy- he seemed like a good man but it is now clear that he was unable to lead this team. You can argue the players should follow a manager's instructions, or that it is the manager's job to lead them effectively. Don't care about this debate right now- there are immediate issues to be concerned with. I think there are better managers out there we could get, but they will need to come in with the management skills to command the respect of the players. There will undoubtedly be calls for the board to spill their guts about what has gone on behind the scenes, but I reckon we'll need to be realistic, get behind the team on Saturday and hope for a good appointment, followed by some savvy signings in January. Oh to be a Killie fan! Agree 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, skygod said: Hats off to those who said he'd be gone by Christmas. What about the folk that said he’d never be sacked or slagged off folk that referred to issues behind the scenes as being no marks etc. Mite hassle than it is worth posting on here at times. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluenwhiteARMY Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 If the players genuinely weren't getting along with alessio and 1 win in 8 is the us starting to see the results of that, I'd personally rather change it up before it's too late. Too many times we see teams changing managers too far into the season. Feel for the guy obviously -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Less than happy about this. Angelo deserved at least a transfer window with some support from the club to address our obvious problem areas. Disappointed with how it's been handled and to be honest it makes us look pretty bad. He's lost his job mostly due to other peoples failings in the summer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro'sBrither Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 It's pretty obvious this has nothing to do with the last 3 matches. It's some form of internal issue. Players, board, whatever. It just didnt work out. Maybe he was pumping the cleaner and got sacked for misconduct. Who knows. All speculation unless we get some answers from the club. Failing that let's just get behind the team and the next manager and move on. What else can we do? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All the Wine Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'm not massively disappointed he's gone, but I do sympathise. Thought he deserved a transfer window but maybe the board have thought better to do this now than let things get worse. We're 5th but is anyone enjoying going to the games at the moment? There's no real affinity between AA and the fans imo as there's been a fair majority that have been against him since CQN game and he's not done anything to bring them round. It's easy to point the finger at the players and board but sometimes the simplest answer is the one that's right. Maybe he just wasn't a good manager or just the wrong manager for us. Best of luck to him I'm sure he'll be back over in Italy in a plum job shortly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Didn't look too disappointed in the photo with his box of possessions and the thumbs up one. Money in the bank and some winter sunshine instead of a Scottish winter. He will probably walk into a coaching job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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