NorfolkG Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, bute-killiefan said: Can we stop saying the appointment of Alessio ‘didn’t work’. it was never given a chance to. It’s lazy He didn’t get long enough, I agree. But whatever the reason for the sacking, the fact he lasted 22 games surely means the appointment didn’t work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR1869 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Post SC I was very adverse to Holt. I think this opinion, along with most of our recent issues, was borne out of over expectation. This is a result of having had an absolutely top class manager. However, it was an absolute freak situation. I refuse to believe we need to ‘know our place’ and shouldn’t dream big, however this needs to be a steady building process. Holt is the man for that I feel. Stability. Will know the club, and players limitations, and will play a system that works for what we have. He cares for the club, the fans will back him, and crucially so will Fow and the board. Go and get him now before his stock rises beyond our means. Edited December 23, 2019 by BR1869 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdwatch1965 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 I dont know if this has been mentioned yet. On saturday chick young said on bbc sportsound that there was a 6 month clause in the Allesio contract whereby the contract could be terminated for any reason. But it had to be done that week, with no compensation paid. Dont know how true it is,but makes sence by how quick and to everyone's surprise it happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Thirdwatch1965 said: I dont know if this has been mentioned yet. On saturday chick young said on bbc sportsound that there was a 6 month clause in the Allesio contract whereby the contract could be terminated for any reason. But it had to be done that week, with no compensation paid. Dont know how true it is,but makes sence by how quick and to everyone's surprise it happened. yeah been said a few times, think Baz shot it down in flames, but there may be something to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thirdwatch1965 said: I dont know if this has been mentioned yet. On saturday chick young said on bbc sportsound that there was a 6 month clause in the Allesio contract whereby the contract could be terminated for any reason. But it had to be done that week, with no compensation paid. Dont know how true it is,but makes sence by how quick and to everyone's surprise it happened. Yep. I heard a good couple of months ago there was a clause in his contract. Chick Young has probably lifted that from this website though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenwick Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 weird we inserted a 6 months no compo clause when we apparently appointed best manager in scotland.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, trenwick said: weird we inserted a 6 months no compo clause when we apparently appointed best manager in scotland.... Think Mr Bowie needs to choose his words more carefully when talking to the media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 better saying we have best manager in scotland than we have the 5th best manager. Experience wise, AA was the best tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: better saying we have best manager in scotland than we have the 5th best manager. Experience wise, AA was the best tbf After 22 games makes him look a bit of a prick though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBus Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: better saying we have best manager in scotland than we have the 5th best manager. Experience wise, AA was the best tbf Coaching wise, you could make a case if you want. Manager wise, not a chance he was the best. Nowhere near it and just reading his cv would back that up (and the Juventus period where he was 'in charge' is included - not a chance that Conte wasn't still the main man). However, it is a moot point - I will always want the people that lead Kilmarnock to talk us up and that is what Billy Bowie does - more power to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: After 22 games makes him look a bit of a prick though. bit of a prick is a tad harsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtuocity Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 I was dead against Holt in the summer. As said above, with the right infrastructure sorting out the signings and structure of the club, Holt would be a good man to lead the team out. Go get him Bowie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: bit of a prick is a tad harsh Really? He's a successful businessman but comes across a bit of an egoist in his media dealings. Can't fault the finance he has put into the club though. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Really? He's a successful businessman but comes across a bit of an egoist in his media dealings. Can't fault the finance he has put into the club though. sorry mate, thought you were talking about AA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: sorry mate, thought you were talking about AA Break down in communication 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Chick Young has probably lifted that from this website though Absolutely this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, charlie1 said: Steve Clarke got sacked too before comng to Kilmarnock , so by your reasoning Gary Holt would have been a better choice. we are all allowed our opinions and at the end of the day we have no say. It’s your opposition to Holt that I find surprising. His record as a manager is perfectly acceptable. He has Livingston in a higher position than would be expected and that’s exactly what SC did with Killie. Edited December 24, 2019 by historyman -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie1 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 6 hours ago, historyman said: It’s your opposition to Holt that I find surprising. His record as a manager is perfectly acceptable. He has Livingston in a higher position than would be expected and that’s exactly what SC did with Killie. As I said on my op I feel there are better candidates out there , if GH were get the job he would get my support , where is the opposition in that? anyway we might all get what none of us want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 The new manager speculation last time was much better. By this stage we had Poyet and di Matteo rumoured, with Davie Moyes on the fringes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, charlie1 said: anyway we might all get what none of us want. Nah he took the Partick job recently so is unlikely to move again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR1869 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) Well it won’t be Chris Powell then. Appointed Alan Pardew’s assistant at ADO Den Haag. Edited December 24, 2019 by BR1869 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just goes to show that there are good appointments to be made. I don’t know anything about Den Haag, other than they are second bottom in Holland. That is an outstanding double appointment. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 There are loads of decent managers out of work who would jump at chance of managing us. The continental way didn't work, but plenty out of work English managers would be available. I would like Holt, but hope we don't go down the route of Stuart McCall or John Hughes, think bigger (OK Holt isn't thinking big, but it is logical). Pardew and Powell going to Den Hagg shows that these managers are willing to lower their standards to get back in the game, must be plenty more in same boat. I used to speak to Holt at the killie games before he got livi job and he was totally frustrated that he couldn't get a managers job in this country as it is a managerial merry go round, once you're in you're in, but if you are out of work it is bloody hard to get back in. There must be decent managers been out of work for a while he want back in the game but not getting the break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al j Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Chris Hughton still out of a job. Good Premier League experience. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Hughton or Coleman would both be fantastic appointments imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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