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5 minutes ago, Killiepies said:

Iran will back down or else they will be bombed back to stone age times.Only fools attempt to take on the military might of the USA 

Iran would take out a decent chunk of any planes, have much better air defences than Iraq or Afghanistan and are allied to Russian, who have the sort of kit the Americans won’t fly through.  It’s electioneering and opportunism with this being an election year (FFS after the GE!) and the impeachment trial.  Spot of action in middle East detracts attention from that. Although this is how big wars start, given ongoing situation in Iraq/Syria/ISIS/Afghanistan and the region over 20 years.  Will be interesting to see what European countries say about it.

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Really hoping this is the start of us keeping the f**k out of American wars in the middle east. It has nothing to do with us and any involvement we could have would be superficial to the power the Americans hold. 

Iran a completely different animal to Iraq. Far more dangerous and powerful. 

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30 minutes ago, RAG said:

It’s electioneering and opportunism with this being an election year (FFS after the GE!) and the impeachment trial.  Spot of action in middle East detracts attention from that. 

https://www.businessinsider.de/international/old-trump-tweets-emerge-claim-obama-wanted-war-iran-2020-1/?r=US&IR=T

  • In 2011 and 2012 Donald Trump repeatedly accused President Barack Obama of seeking war with Iran to help win the 2012 presidential election.
  • „In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran,“ tweeted Trump in 2011, years before he began his own presidential campaign.
  • On Thursday, Trump ordered the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, a top Iranian commander and one of the most powerful men in the Middle East.
  • The assassination comes with Trump’s approval rating mired at 42%, and facing removal from office through impeachment as the US enters election year.

Tweets from back in 2011 and 2012 in which Donald Trump predicted that President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran to secure his reelection have gone viral, after the US assassinated a top Iranian general, dramatically escalating its confrontation with Iran.

 

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1 hour ago, RAG said:

...allied to Russia...

And China. The three have just been carrying out naval exercises together.

The US will have few allies other than the UK which is, of course,  snivelling around for a trade deal after f**king Brexit!!!

The government didn't support the US over military action in Syria. Would it support Trump if push comes to shove?

 

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35 minutes ago, skygod said:

And China. The three have just been carrying out naval exercises together.

The US will have few allies other than the UK which is, of course,  snivelling around for a trade deal after f**king Brexit!!!

The government didn't support the US over military action in Syria. Would it support Trump if push comes to shove?

 

Pretty sure Boris would.

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15 minutes ago, skygod said:

The government didn't support the US over military action in Syria. Would it support Trump if push comes to shove?

They’d frame it as support for our Gulf Allies, Suadi’s, Kuwait etc etc, depends a lot on their reaction.  Israeli PM in similar corruption scandal situation as Trump being another side issue. It happened in Iraq which as we all know is bandit country, but if folk are criminals, they should face justice, not killed by robots in sky, if we’re taking an unpolitical, moral stance as human beings.

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2 hours ago, Prahakillie said:

https://www.businessinsider.de/international/old-trump-tweets-emerge-claim-obama-wanted-war-iran-2020-1/?r=US&IR=T

  • In 2011 and 2012 Donald Trump repeatedly accused President Barack Obama of seeking war with Iran to help win the 2012 presidential election.
  • „In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran,“ tweeted Trump in 2011, years before he began his own presidential campaign.
  • On Thursday, Trump ordered the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, a top Iranian commander and one of the most powerful men in the Middle East.
  • The assassination comes with Trump’s approval rating mired at 42%, and facing removal from office through impeachment as the US enters election year.

Tweets from back in 2011 and 2012 in which Donald Trump predicted that President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran to secure his reelection have gone viral, after the US assassinated a top Iranian general, dramatically escalating its confrontation with Iran.

 

Yes like thatcher with the falkland war

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Brazen attempt by Trump to divert attention from his impeachment. Pulls out the age old card of starting a war. Certainly a worry with Russia backing Iran. We know that Trump will stop at nothing to boost his own popularity. Fox News will help him ramp up a war rhetoric if need be. Would be utter madness to go anywhere near this, but then we have Johnson as PM now.

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Really looks like we are getting dragged into this made in America s**tstorm. 

But look on ths bright side. We have just the man as our Prime Minister to deal with this crisis. Who better to steer us through these choppy diplomatic waters, with the chance of nuclear war at every turn than the guy who gained public recognition by being a good comedy turn on Have I Got News For You.

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1 hour ago, gdevoy said:

Really looks like we are getting dragged into this made in America s**tstorm. 

But look on ths bright side. We have just the man as our Prime Minister to deal with this crisis. Who better to steer us through these choppy diplomatic waters, with the chance of nuclear war at every turn than the guy who gained public recognition by being a good comedy turn on Have I Got News For You.

Yea the former worst foreign secretary in living history who does not know his arse from his elbow

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Trump is a disgusting pig threatening to destroy cultural sites. Such volatile and provocative language should be condemned by Raab Johnson but oh no we will be right up their arses as usual. Great deal on the table soon remember.....for the,US. 

Also this "precision" attack presumably also killed more than one person in the two vehicles. Doesnt matter though......

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33 minutes ago, Shropshire_killie said:

Trump is a disgusting pig........

Certainly seems to embody most of what is wrong with humanity.  Pig ignorant while proclaiming himself a great intelect. Openly racist and sexist and proud of it. Openly supportive if the white "supremicusts" in the US. The thing is, just like the Johnston moron, this is what the majority voted for. I suspect that this is down to just how unsavoury and unelectable the alternative is. It seems to be a choice between these knuckle draggers or the Marxist social justice warrior nutjobs. 

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51 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

Certainly seems to embody most of what is wrong with humanity.  Pig ignorant while proclaiming himself a great intelect. Openly racist and sexist and proud of it. Openly supportive if the white "supremicusts" in the US. The thing is, just like the Johnston moron, this is what the majority voted for. I suspect that this is down to just how unsavoury and unelectable the alternative is. It seems to be a choice between these knuckle draggers or the Marxist social justice warrior nutjobs. 

The majority didn’t vote for either Trump or Johnson. Perpetuating this myth helps them validate the crazy decisions they take. 

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1 hour ago, Zorro said:

The majority didn’t vote for either Trump or Johnson. Perpetuating this myth helps them validate the crazy decisions they take. 

It us the way our winner takes all democracy works. No need for compromise or to acknowledge that other views are available.

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1 hour ago, bute-killiefan said:
  • Iraq now voting to demand all US troops leave the country.
  • Iran stating they will not adhere to any of the 2015 nuclear deal.
  • US operations against ISIS have been suspended

 

Aye, aye, aye but the important thing to remember her is that The Donald has improved his prospects of being re-elected base on the principle of "Making America Great again".

Now that Johnston has pitched in his tuppence worth we have nor elevated the threat status to "morons squared".

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