samo Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: why? Loads gambling sponshorship in the game so not like we'd be unique, and offer good moeny. As long as not something daft like Seriously Strong Cheese again, that was embarrassing having that on jersey It's more of how the gambling companies make that money. People already know that if they want to 1. Gamble - then they can to the bookies or casino etc. 2. Drink - go to the pub. Do they really need to be advertised at the football to make a fast buck? In my opinion they don't. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewWylie Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, PrestersKtid said: Yeah think i remember reading that they were ruling out betting and alcohol brands. That’s where the money is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, samo said: It's more of how the gambling companies make that money. People already know that if they want to 1. Gamble - then they can to the bookies or casino etc. 2. Drink - go to the pub. Do they really need to be advertised at the football to make a fast buck? In my opinion they don't. eople already know that if they want to 1. Gamble - they can sit on their phone while at the match. 2. Drink - go to the bar before or after the match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: eople already know that if they want to 1. Gamble - they can sit on their phone while at the match. 2. Drink - go to the bar before or after the match. So do clubs need to advertise them on their strips if people already know all this? Do they also need to advertise them to people under 18 when both are for over 18s? Edited January 3, 2020 by samo -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, samo said: So do clubs need to advertise them on their strips if people already know all this? Do they also need to advertise them to people under 18 when both are for over 18s? Do they need to advertise at all in that case? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: Do they need to advertise at all in that case? 1 exactly, everyone knows what adverts for a) promote company and b) keep company in public eye. If Hooters wanted to sponsor us I'd be delighted! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samo Posted January 3, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: Do they need to advertise at all in that case? You never answered my question. ;-) Other than Glasgow, Ayrshire has the highest rate of GA meetings in the full of Scotland, there's is one meeting almost every night of the week, 3 of which are in and around the Kilmarnock area. Problem gambling is on the rise because of the way the companies promote it and because of the way they then exploit vulnerable people. Im proud of the club for taking this stance. Edited January 3, 2020 by samo 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 If true then I think its a pretty nonsensical stance in todays sporting world. What is the benefit to us not having an alcohol or betting sponsor? Will it seriously improve the lives of Killie fans and our community if we do not take up these sponsorships? I would think it will make no difference whatsoever. All it does is leave us at a disadvantage to our rivals. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAG Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 They should pay some respect to the stripes, change it to an Adidas kit and see how many extra they sell without a shirt sponsor for a season - it’s gonna say Billy Bowie on it after QTS with amount of pitchside advertising BB buys! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, Maverick11 said: So, probably works out about £125k per annum if they’ve been sponsors for 8 years. Pretty cheap deal given the publicity. Media coverage, strips, advertising boards etc. I doubt we'll get anything like that next time, especially if we are ruling out a lot of those companies that pay decent money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, samo said: So do clubs need to advertise them on their strips if people already know all this? Do they also need to advertise them to people under 18 when both are for over 18s? Kids strips don't carry the sponsor. The League is sponsored by a gambling company, the cup is also sponsored by another. I don't think us having a gambling company as sponsor is going to make any more of our fans gamble, however I respect your view on it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Fudger said: If true then I think its a pretty nonsensical stance in todays sporting world. What is the benefit to us not having an alcohol or betting sponsor? Will it seriously improve the lives of Killie fans and our community if we do not take up these sponsorships? I would think it will make no difference whatsoever. All it does is leave us at a disadvantage to our rivals. Agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 For the record, Motherwell's sponsorship from Paddy Power is something I'd LOVE us to have. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Out stock is relatively low right now. And the decision to appoint dyer may have a detrimental impact on sponsorship value. On the slide, with an interim manager. Can’t score a goal. Not sure how many live tv games await in the second half of the season. If the doom merchants are right, not even a guarantee of top flight status. Time to sort this stuff out is when riding high. Can’t see a big bidding auction for our shirts right now. Cluster. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Kids strips don't carry the sponsor. The League is sponsored by a gambling company, the cup is also sponsored by another. I don't think us having a gambling company as sponsor is going to make any more of our fans gamble, however I respect your view on it. Your right about the kids strips not carrying the sponsor however kids see their hero's with it plastered all over their strip every week, they are still exposed to it. We hide fags in the supermarket now for the very same reason. As far as I'm aware Ladbrokes are pulling their sponsorship of the league. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 I honestly don't think us being sponsored by a betting or alcohol company will increase addiction in this area, however I am sensing some people here may have been directly affected by these addictions and have a personal opinion based on that so fair play, definitely respect that also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, samo said: Problem gambling is on the rise because of the way the companies promote it and because of the way they then exploit vulnerable people. Bookies have to go through so much more regulation than anyone else for their advertising and practises that this is just nonsense. I know this as I spent 5 and a half years working for a company already named on this thread. I love how everyone is so well informed that BOOKIES ARE BAD! The true matter of fact is people who get themselves in financial mess use the bookies as a scapegoat looking for someone to blame for their own poor mistakes. If Kenny from Kilwinning chooses to put his last £20 on a 3 legged donkey on the 14:20 at Ripon who's fault is that? To quote Stevie from Still Game: "Man places bet bookie takes bet" -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, KillieBantam said: Bookies have to go through so much more regulation than anyone else for their advertising and practises that this is just nonsense. I know this as I spent 5 and a half years working for a company already named on this thread. I love how everyone is so well informed that BOOKIES ARE BAD! The true matter of fact is people who get themselves in financial mess use the bookies as a scapegoat looking for someone to blame for their own poor mistakes. If Kenny from Kilwinning chooses to put his last £20 on a 3 legged donkey on the 14:20 at Ripon who's fault is that? To quote Stevie from Still Game: "Man places bet bookie takes bet" Regulations? Aye just stick "gamble responsibly" at the end and every thing is fine eh? -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: For the record, Motherwell's sponsorship from Paddy Power is something I'd LOVE us to have. THIS. Sponsors on shirts are tacky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, samo said: Your right about the kids strips not carrying the sponsor however kids see their hero's with it plastered all over their strip every week, they are still exposed to it. We hide fags in the supermarket now for the very same reason. As far as I'm aware Ladbrokes are pulling their sponsorship of the league. It's on TV every game there is on TV, kids will see it anyway. I don't think us having it on our strip will make a blind bit of difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, KillieBantam said: Bookies have to go through so much more regulation than anyone else for their advertising and practises that this is just nonsense. I know this as I spent 5 and a half years working for a company already named on this thread. I love how everyone is so well informed that BOOKIES ARE BAD! The true matter of fact is people who get themselves in financial mess use the bookies as a scapegoat looking for someone to blame for their own poor mistakes. If Kenny from Kilwinning chooses to put his last £20 on a 3 legged donkey on the 14:20 at Ripon who's fault is that? To quote Stevie from Still Game: "Man places bet bookie takes bet" Agree mate...... A bookmakers or public house is no different to any other retailer, nobody forces anyone to use their establishment or facilities, its an individuals own choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Ngonge88 said: Can see it being Billy Bowie Tankers if we cant get anything else that's worthwhile 1 hour ago, Prahakillie said: or Park Hotel. In that case, might as well give it to a charity, like Hearts.* I think I can honestly say that I've never been positively influenced by shirt advertising. I've been negatively influenced against a product associating itself with certain clubs. I've thought that a logo looks good on a particular shirt but it's never made me want to buy the product or shirt. As long as sponsorship by gambling and alcohol companies is allowed, taking a moral high ground just costs us revenue. * I see that the Hearts deal isn't as altruistic as it looks. "A group of anonymous Hearts-supporting businesspeople contacted the club’s owner, Ann Budge, several months ago with a view to offering financial support. The upshot was a unique deal whereby what Budge confirmed as a “significant seven-figure sum” will be split between the charity and football club. Hearts will become the first UK side to carry the name of a worldwide charity on their home and away tops having rejected standard shirt-sponsorship opportunities." https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/01/hearts-feature-save-the-children-shirts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Would be rule out being sponsored by say, KFC as there are lots of fat kids in Scotland? Would the club turn down sponsorship from a big Ayrshire brand like Hendricks, as it's alcohol? Would we rule out investment from Kenny Alexander as he's made money from Gambling companies. I think if push came to shove, the club would say yes to all three. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Would be rule out being sponsored by say, KFC as there are lots of fat kids in Scotland? Would the club turn down sponsorship from a big Ayrshire brand like Hendricks, as it's alcohol? Would we rule out investment from Kenny Alexander as he's made money from Gambling companies. I think if push came to shove, the club would say yes to all three. Should also ban the weans from walking by the hotel and Killie Club om match day incase thy catch a glimpse of someone drinking a pint or having a fag. Some family club eh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, samo said: Regulations? Aye just stick "gamble responsibly" at the end and every thing is fine eh? Here's some video campaigns rand by bookies on responsible gambling. Note how they are taking advantage of people as they actively open the discussion on responsible gambling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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