Riccarton Bluebell Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy said: I attended a 'Jim Wilson' boycott against the Lauchlan regime back in the 80's, the Boycott was for only the fist half, and despite the fact the board signed Dave McFarlane for £100,000(????) the night before a hard core still boycotted. The boycott involved sitting in the Killie Club until half time. Ultimatley like with MJ, fan pressure won out and the Fleeting era came to pass. That was a protest and I am not sure if Jim attended it as I know I never. The Killie club was not involved but the Howard Park was the meeting point. Fans agreed to pay into the match but come in late as a sign they wanted change. All the fans paid in so as not to deprive the club of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just now, Riccarton Bluebell said: That was a protest and I am not sure if Jim attended it as I know I never. The Killie club was not involved but the Howard Park was the meeting point. Fans agreed to pay into the match but come in late as a sign they wanted change. All the fans paid in so as not to deprive the club of money. Totally agree everyone still paid in, but it was billed as a boycott, and I am 100% sure it was in the Killie club and Jim was involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 There were fans outside the turnstiles asking others not to go in and to support the boycott. Being youngsters at the time and not knowing what was going on behind the scenes (nae Facebook or Forums at that time ... was the early, early days of fanzines) we all paid and went in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, chubbs said: There were fans outside the turnstiles asking others not to go in and to support the boycott. Being youngsters at the time and not knowing what was going on behind the scenes (nae Facebook or Forums at that time ... was the early, early days of fanzines) we all paid and went in. I was young too mid to late teens, we were deffo at the ground and in the Killie club on the day, sure we all missed our goal that day if memory serves ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scooby_Doo Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, DrewWylie said: Update on the MEETING for all you bores, Jim and I couldn’t sort a time that suits so it will likely be next week , Monday is a no no for me as I have a boozy lunch with my pals then a Monday Club , Tuesday I have an all day funeral for one of my pals , Wednesday is a day of rest for me so maybe I’ll see the man on Thursday or Friday , I’ll update you when we have agreed a day/time Worst. Craig. David. Cover. Ever. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Will this be on KillieTV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoydsFace Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Scooby_Doo said: Worst. Craig. David. Cover. Ever. This is what the internet is for. Fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Scooby_Doo said: Worst. Craig. David. Cover. Ever. The Cure surely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmthmsn Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 2:25 PM, DrewWylie said: And no f ing wonder , most of the trust didn’t bother even attending games a wee while back if I remember correctly Jeeeez! This is the kind of moronic rubbish that I was hoping to avoid you continually spouting about Mr Easterbook. Could you not have at least maintained 'radio silence' until we could reschedule? Cathy and I were both there yesterday at the time originally stated but unfortunately, as I was doing other Trust business that morning at the Club, I missed your PM on here trying to arrange an earlier time. If I'd known that, I'd have saved Cathy a needless journey. You and OldKillie should really keep schtum with your prejudices and negativity until you hear the truth instead of once again embarrassing yourself in an open forum. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldkillie Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 7:00 PM, jmthmsn said: Jeeeez! This is the kind of moronic rubbish that I was hoping to avoid you continually spouting about Mr Easterbook. Could you not have at least maintained 'radio silence' until we could reschedule? Cathy and I were both there yesterday at the time originally stated but unfortunately, as I was doing other Trust business that morning at the Club, I missed your PM on here trying to arrange an earlier time. If I'd known that, I'd have saved Cathy a needless journey. You and OldKillie should really keep schtum with your prejudices and negativity until you hear the truth instead of once again embarrassing yourself in an open forum. Don’t bring me into your wee daft discussions it’s between you and Drew -11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmthmsn Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 10:39 AM, Oldkillie said: Drew asked Jim to meet him next away game unfortunately Jim doesn’t go to away games Wasn't aware I had to clock in with you. What point were you trying to make her? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldkillie Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, jmthmsn said: Wasn't aware I had to clock in with you. What point were you trying to make her? Sarcasm ser! -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmthmsn Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Oldkillie said: Sarcasm ser! Utter keech ser! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyG Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: I hope you are not suggesting that Jim Wilson ever boycotted Killie? Nothing could be further from the truth if you were. Always trying to find something to have a go about. I said he took action against a regime that was dragging the club down, I never said he boycotted. Horses for courses, you do what you think will have the best effect and when it came to MJ all he cared about was money so it made sense to hit him where it hurt. There were a few physical confrontations in the car park at the time which I witnessed myself - if you are trying to condone one kind of protest as opposed to another I think violence would be frowned on in this day and age. For the record I supported those who rallied against the Lauchlans just as I supported those who rallied against Michael Johnston and I'm not sure what kind of stupid doesn't understand that if boycotting a few matches helped get shot of MJ then the end result could only be good for the club. It's a matter of choosing where you drew the line and how far you were willing to go for the greater good, some of us gave up a few games so that the club could prosper, we sacrificed our Saturdays so you could still have a team to go and watch and all you do is constantly have a go about it and put yourself on some sort of moral high horse; the irony of course is you look down at fans who boycotted but you laud the car park lynch mob. I honestly don't know why I am bothering to reply to this as you clearly didn't understand the situation then and it seems you still don't understand the situation now and I'm guessing despite anything anyone says, that you never will - because it suits you not to. Internal strife at a football club is never pretty but at the end of the day its only the result that counts. The fans won out on both occasions whether you agree with the methodology or not, maintaining factions and creating divides in such a small support is just daft, we all want the same things and no one is 'better' than anyone else. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyG Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: That was a protest and I am not sure if Jim attended it as I know I never. So you didn't support the fans against the Lauchlan regime either? I'm sensing a theme here. For the record I bought a family season ticket as well as my own after MJ left and donated the other one to the hippo's ticket campaign. The cheek of the bloke helping all those families get the matches eh. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, RayD said: Will this be on KillieTV? Too big for Killie TV...... its gotta be Setanta surely ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I am not aware of what Jim chose to do during the MJ debacle, but all I would comment is if he decided not to boycott when many others did, then I find that a tad disappointing, not that it matters that much now. But he deffo was at the spearhead of the Anti-Lauchlan protest/boycott, so disappointing to hear he took no part in MJ boycotts. Purely personal opinion it has to be said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qatar_Killie Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 7 hours ago, TommyG said: If you are referring to the action taken to get Michael Johnston out the club then one of them was me and might proud of it I am too. Just like Jim Wilson etc before us took action against the Lauchlans, something had to be done and hitting the man who only cared about money in the pocket was the only way to do it. It was f**k all to do with the Trust, they no doubt had a few people involved but it was fans from all over who took part and in the end it brought in your pal Bowie and the rest they say is history. I'm amazed that anyone can hold a grudge about something that never actually happened against people who weren't even involved, and they missed games so that YOU still have a club. If you don't understand that then its pointless trying to explain it any further. I thought all this was over and we have new problems to face but it seems that some fans get an idea in their head and can't let it go. Nonsense. Your actions had absolutely nothing to do with MJ leaving. But tout yourselves as hero’s if you want -4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilMARKnock Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, Qatar_Killie said: Nonsense. Your actions had absolutely nothing to do with MJ leaving. But tout yourselves as hero’s if you want Well said! -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TommyG said: So you didn't support the fans against the Lauchlan regime either? I'm sensing a theme here. For the record I bought a family season ticket as well as my own after MJ left and donated the other one to the hippo's ticket campaign. The cheek of the bloke helping all those families get the matches eh. I don’t know what theme you are on about. I never said I never took action against the Lauchlan regime as I most certainly did. I did say I never took part on the day the fans came in late. Incidentally your actions had nothing whatsoever to do with MJ’s departure so do not kid yourself. Edited January 10, 2020 by Riccarton Bluebell -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: I don’t know what theme you are on about. I never said I never took action against the Lauchlan regime as I most certainly did. I did say I never took part on the day the fans came in late. Incidentally your actions had nothing whatsoever to do with MJ’s departure so do not kid yourself. This is true i think the sad loss of his wife was the reason he ultimateley left the club -7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyG Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, killie1961 said: This is true i think the sad loss of his wife was the reason he ultimateley left the club It's not true. It's not untrue either. The fact is that he always planned to trouser as much as he could and then exit stage left, what happened with his poor wife probably expedited the situation but the least said about that the better, i wouldn't wish that on anyone. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyG Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: I don’t know what theme you are on about. I never said I never took action against the Lauchlan regime as I most certainly did. I did say I never took part on the day the fans came in late. Incidentally your actions had nothing whatsoever to do with MJ’s departure so do not kid yourself. I'm not kidding myself. the boycott brought Bowie to the table, he's been quoted saying that himself on several occasions. Bowie got shot of MJ when he realised like everyone else had by then that he was only in it for the money and the club was getting shafted left right and centre. That's a fact my friend, no matter how anyone else who supported the man killing the club try and spin it. Let it go and move on. None of us are claiming to be "heroes", we were just fans forced into a bad position to stop the rot. I don't want credit or praise and I'd be happy if it was never to be mentioned again, but there are utter fannies who constantly bring up NAPM and slaughter anyone involved who refuse point blank to let it go and I don't see why we should have to sit back and accept the abuse when all we did was the same as the fans did back in the 80's which was protest in the best way we saw fit. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 I had a civilised discussion with Michael not so long back and he appears more pragmatic about it now. More facial hair, less angry. He never wanted the job in the first place but it turned out to be very good for his flagging career so he stuck with it until he could find a suitable way out. It lasted "a hell of a lot longer" than he expected and that's a direct quote, and the beginning of the end for him was actually learning about what happened with Gavin Masterton and Dunfermline which gave rise to the bank debt write off plan. We were very close to going under a few times but we got lucky on a few fronts at the right times and that pulled us through, but when Billy Bowie approached the club to help when things were going from bad to worse, that facilitated the whole plan and that's how he walked away when he did. I think I equated him to the anti-christ back in the day but it is amazing how getting older and ill health mellows your attitude. One day I may even laugh about Tiny Wharton and how simple football used to be, one day. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blues Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Johnston is still a prick. Just a rich prick now. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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