PrestersKtid Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Kanyon said: Biggest problem I feel is thankfully the club is not in trouble. People rally round in times of crisis the feeling is that even though on the park at the moment isn’t great the actual club is not under threat. Most people are also used to a board Or individual owning a club so there’s not a massive interest or possibly a need for fan ownership in the majority of the fans eyes. Why do folk always have to be reactive instead of proactive? Why wait for a disaster so fans have to pick up the pieces when you can build yourself stronger now to avoid that disaster altogether? I don't understand why folk still expect people like Billy Bowie or whoever to permanently bank roll the club. Yes he's a wealthy man but he'll be losing money through the club. He's perfectly entitled to say tomorrow that he's had enough and is pulling his funding or worse is calling in his debt. Then where would we be? If St mirren have 1000 members paying a minimum £12 a month. That's £12000 a month into club. £144k a year. 2/3 decent players wages. If anything we should be joining to try to match/better our closest rivals, Motherwell and St Mirren are probably the closest teams to us in terms of size in the league. We all have similar season ticket sales, attendances and history. Why let them have an advantage over us? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stewarty66 Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, PrestersKtid said: If anything we should be joining to try to match/better our closest rivals, Motherwell and St Mirren are probably the closest teams to us in terms of size in the league. We all have similar season ticket sales, attendances and history. Why let them have an advantage over us? Because some Killie fans would have nothing to moan about. And point their fingers at everyone bar themselves. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Neither Motherwell or St Mirren are in trouble yet they have 1000s singed up to a similar scheme. Exactly. Looks terrible on us. Look how many punters moan about St Mirren not giving us extra tickets but can’t sign up to TIK. Embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mclean07 Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Because some Killie fans would have nothing to moan about. And point their fingers at everyone bar themselves. This. We’re full of Elsies. It’s always somebody Elsies fault. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: The voice on the board is very quiet. In fact the full board seem to have been struck dumb recently. Here we go again...Baz is right, this thread is truly depressing. Think i'll go back to cutting down forum time again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Out of interest what kind of things does St Mirren's and Motherwells groups put their money towards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 pity is a one or 3 posters with what often seems like an agenda often now seem to hijack a lot of threads and set them off on a tangent losing any interesting discussion or interest for others 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, cammy_boy said: Out of interest what kind of things does St Mirren's and Motherwells groups put their money towards? Same sort of things. Saints did/are doing a Wheelchair platform with part of the monthly fees. The rest go to paying off their front funder. Saints had a guy buy a stake in the club and the fans are now paying that back i believe. They got a fan rep on board aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJackPirate Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, PrestersKtid said: Why do folk always have to be reactive instead of proactive? Why wait for a disaster so fans have to pick up the pieces when you can build yourself stronger now to avoid that disaster altogether? I don't understand why folk still expect people like Billy Bowie or whoever to permanently bank roll the club. Yes he's a wealthy man but he'll be losing money through the club. He's perfectly entitled to say tomorrow that he's had enough and is pulling his funding or worse is calling in his debt. Then where would we be? If St mirren have 1000 members paying a minimum £12 a month. That's £12000 a month into club. £144k a year. 2/3 decent players wages. If anything we should be joining to try to match/better our closest rivals, Motherwell and St Mirren are probably the closest teams to us in terms of size in the league. We all have similar season ticket sales, attendances and history. Why let them have an advantage over us? Spot on mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Motherwell have experienced administration and St Mirren weren't too far away at one point so that can have an effect on the level of support from the fans who never want to go there again. The club have never, as far as I can recall, stated that we were close to administration..... although my own opinion is we were closer than MJ ever admitted to and I believe that a huge majority of fans see that as us being safe and secure and the trust not being needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkit Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Like Baz, I have a few things I want to say on this. However, i am really bogged down at work for the next couple of days so bear with me and i will post something in the next 3 or 4 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Perhaps these folk would like to take over from the Trust board then? No chance. They prefer sniping from the outside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, cammy_boy said: Out of interest what kind of things does St Mirren's and Motherwells groups put their money towards? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.smisa.net/&ved=2ahUKEwiyuJvVwYXnAhUKAcAKHQQbAl8QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw29cT9ZqRdWq-hYIYBtTQbh&cshid=1579088332905 Sorry, it's a messy link but click on "ten things they have achieved so far". Edited January 15, 2020 by Wrangodog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arderkilliesier Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Thankfully the sensible on this thread is easily discerned from the nonsense, the goal of the trust is to eventually hold the controlling interest in the club negating the danger of an MJ, Romanov or Craig Whyte taking the club down...….simple and a trust is the best vehicle to obtain that through fan ownership. It works very well for the two richest football clubs on the planet Barcelona and Real Madrid owned and run through their fans Socios….and yes to the doon moothers we do not have and will never have that kind of fan base but all things taken relatively we could become a very lucrative proposition if we could motivate a large percentage of our current support. I live 200 miles from Rugby Park and work over 3000 miles away, so no I don't fit into any cliques, don't know any members of the trust apart from my Brother, have no affiliation with the labour party, but can find no axe to grind with Cathie, as all who actually meet and have dealings with her regarding the club speak highly of her ability and commitment.....so why the snide and frankly should be beneath decent folks comments. Think as a fan base those that "can" should back the trust, those that cant financially or won't should be respected and not seen as any a lesser fan, but they should if decrying the trust and it's supporters explain their angst against the principal without the snide personal attacks...NAPM is over lets move on.... At the end of the day we want Killie to prosper on and off the park and splitting the support is not the best route forward....and if you have a better vehicle than the Trust not withstanding some Oligarch then lets hear it... 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Painter Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: The voice on the board is very quiet. In fact the full board seem to have been struck dumb recently. Maybe she just wants to pick and choose which questions to answer. A bit like yourself. Everyone is still waiting to find out who the NAPM gang are at the trust that stops you from contributing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Painter said: Maybe she just wants to pick and choose which questions to answer. A bit like yourself. Everyone is still waiting to find out who the NAPM gang are at the trust that stops you from contributing? Everyone waiting? I doubt that very much. -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: The voice on the board is very quiet. In fact the full board seem to have been struck dumb recently. Anyway, the NAPM gang on the Trust board - who are they? I can't think of anyone on the Trust board who were NAPM? Also, this overhaul of the Trust that you suggest to attract new members - what have you in mind? Or is this just a case of rubbishing the current version but no suggestions as to how it can be improved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions13 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: Everyone waiting? I doubt that very much. You're correct, it's not everyone. But you have avoided answering the question again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: Everyone waiting? I doubt that very much. In other words you can't answer the question as your original point is nonsense. Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Painter Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: Everyone waiting? I doubt that very much. Talking s**te then aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Painter said: Talking s**te then aye? You seem to be good at that. -7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Painter Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: You seem to be good at that. I’m very good at it. Just not as good as you. You just keep trying to deflect the fact you can answer the question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Arderkilliesier said: I live 200 miles from Rugby Park and work over 3000 miles away. That's one hell of a daily commute! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Well one things for sure, I think we can safely say we already have Fred of the Year for 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewWylie Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Killie trust members sign in if you boycotted a Killie game ???? Paninaros NEVER boycotted , no lies here because I know who boycotted —- dick heads -27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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