Wrangodog Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Strikes me that the bottom eight in a fourteen team league are only playing to avoid relegation after the split. Why not have a playoff between the fourth team (or second Europa Cup qualifier) in the top six and the winner of the bottom eight to decide the last European place. That way the bottom eight have something to play for at the top of the post-split league as well as the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theauldyin Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Its a bribe pure and simple !! as for Dungcaster the quicker he goes the better he brings a big fat ZERO ! to the table . How much longer will this go on, the vote was made and those Jambo c**ts are down !! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, theauldyin said: Its a bribe pure and simple !! as for Dungcaster the quicker he goes the better he brings a big fat ZERO ! to the table . How much longer will this go on, the vote was made and those Jambo c**ts are down !! The trust gave more to the club at the start of the lockdown. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 I hope Killie vote against this. The big relegation can is only getting kicked down the road. This is not the time for reconstruction and certainly not just to please Anne Budge. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: I hope Killie vote against this. The big relegation can is only getting kicked down the road. This is not the time for reconstruction and certainly not just to please Anne Budge. Agreed would not like to go through Easter Road experience when Tommy Burns kept us up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, trenwick said: increase the league so that we play home and away and not one that panders to the bigots day oot for 4 games a season I would love a 16 team, 30 game season but unfortunately the clubs don't. Being in a 14 game long, post-split bottom 8 is about as appealing as a Parkhead pie (one of the few advantages of missing out on the top 6). Edited June 3, 2020 by Fankle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCM Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 See Budge is now wanting a 14 team league and has stated the other lower division teams can do what they like (I don't care attitude). Doncaster now saying a 14 team league could be for five years. They are trying anything they can to save Hearts from relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, GCM said: See Budge is now wanting a 14 team league and has stated the other lower division teams can do what they like (I don't care attitude). Doncaster now saying a 14 team league could be for five years. They are trying anything they can to save Hearts from relegation. They can f**k off, Hearts have been absolute dung for 2 years with shed loads of wonga spunked on useless foreign mercenaries managed by a bespeckled tosspot manager and DOG who hadn't a clue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGHT and BLUE Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Beaker71 said: They can f**k off, Hearts have been absolute dung for 2 years with shed loads of wonga spunked on useless foreign mercenaries managed by a bespeckled tosspot manager and DOG who hadn't a clue. Sounds vaguely familiar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkil Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 22 hours ago, Beaker71 said: They can f**k off, Hearts have been absolute dung for 2 years with shed loads of wonga spunked on useless foreign mercenaries managed by a bespeckled tosspot manager and DOG who hadn't a clue. I actually find it quite surprising that very few people have brought this up. Season 2018/19 they started incredibly, around September/October were 3 points clear top of the league. Then beginning of winter Naismith got injured and their form dropped off a cliff. Only an easy draw to the Scottish Cup final last season saved Levein's job for as long. They've been s**te for 18 months and fully deserve to be relegated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCM Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 With all the different league proposals put forward to save Hearts (and none agreed), it was only a matter of time before it got even crazier. Hibs and Hearts want to ground share at Murrayfield to enable them to get bigger crowds, as they will be able to social distance easier. (maybe we should try for Hampden) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52938590 Now Rangers are back wanting them and Celtic to have a B team in the bottom League. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52941423 Seriously getting to the stage when I could give up on Scottish football. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 We need to save Hearts from relegation as that would be unfair. Saving them would be hugely unfair on Cove Rangers, but they don't matter do they? It's all about protecting the vulnerable lower leagues after all. Why that has to involve Old Firm colt teams I don't know. A vote restructuring prize money more fairly would be simpler and cheaper. It seems to me that proposals are only coming from clubs with self interest at heart. This one seems intent on widening the gap between Celtic, Rangers and the rest. Saving Hearts is a nice side effect for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post livvy Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 The sevco proposal is vile. They expect to chuck money they don't have at teams to get what they want. It doesn't wash and nobody in Scotland from the grass roots up to the national team benefits from the leagues becoming yet more of a two team circus. They really don't grasp how much impact their behaviour has and how little anyone wants them or their twisted sister around. Why in earth would we want to double our biggest problem? When those two actually address their sectarian problem they can have a voice. Until then they should shut up and let the rest get on with it. The best solution for Scottish football would be a 20 team top flight, a 20 team championship and regionalised leagues below that in a clear pyramid. There's very little difference between many championship clubs and the majority of the spfl in terms of fan base etc. No more ridiculous spells of 7 games a a season against the same team. Plenty of variety in who you play. Restores all the main derbies for TV and gate income. Nobody will discuss the best solution as it doesn't suit those two. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrycanuck Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 I love your proposal but the Old Firm (and TV) want 4 matches per year. You could have a 14-team league, play each other 3 times (39 games) and have a local derby as the 40th game giving the Old Firm their 4 matches and then you can have St. Mirren-Kilmarnock, Hamilton-Motherwell, Hibs-Hearts etc. I'm not sure about a split (I don't know why we need a split) but I think a 14-team arrangement needs to be permanent and not 2 years or 5 years. I'm indifferent about leagues below the Premier, but perhaps 12 in the Championship and 12 in League One? I think 40 teams now is too many. The Rangers proposal is pure self-interest and I hope we vote it down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muza1962 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, GCM said: With all the different league proposals put forward to save Hearts (and none agreed), it was only a matter of time before it got even crazier. Hibs and Hearts want to ground share at Murrayfield to enable them to get bigger crowds, as they will be able to social distance easier. (maybe we should try for Hampden) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52938590 Now Rangers are back wanting them and Celtic to have a B team in the bottom League. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52941423 Seriously getting to the stage when I could give up on Scottish football. The last sentence sums it up for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, muza1962 said: The last sentence sums it up for me. Looks like self interest b 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, GCM said: With all the different league proposals put forward to save Hearts (and none agreed), it was only a matter of time before it got even crazier. Hibs and Hearts want to ground share at Murrayfield to enable them to get bigger crowds, as they will be able to social distance easier. (maybe we should try for Hampden) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52938590 Now Rangers are back wanting them and Celtic to have a B team in the bottom League. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52941423 Seriously getting to the stage when I could give up on Scottish football. On the first point, I wonder if it would be possible to have a socially distant crowd at RP. No away support, and we use all four stands? The colt teams can get so far to f**k. Self serving nonsense served up as “for the greater good”. Challenge Cup attendances between Rangers/Celtic colts and League 1 and 2 sides will tell you there’s zero appetite for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 A 14-14-18 is a defo no for me. Despise the idea of the colt team the can get to f**k. If i was able to put my own forward it would be 16-14-14 a much more profitable top flight with multiple derbies and rivalries. Not to mention that both the highland and lowland league champs get promoted. And the colt teams can get lost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 I don't get this extending the league will make it better. We have had multiple goes at reconstruction from 10 to 12 and back to 12 with play offs and splits .What we have now is as good as it gets ,most teams have something to play for right through the season and a get out of jail card if you finish second bottom .As for the derbies it could bring ,Ayr brings nothing to the league bar a derbie with us .If you are going to have a record low crowd for a game imagine Ayr v Ross County or away to Hamilton.A decent Hearts or Hibs would bring just as many to Rugby Park as our next door neighbours .I think to many of our fans don't want to risk ever being relegated and increasing the league would suit them .Just do enough to stay in the league and play meaningless games with no pressure what's so ever for part of the season . -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 The current play off system in Scotland is a joke. It has certainly benefited us but for me it is extremely unfair on the lower league teams and is therefore not a level playing field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Fudger said: The current play off system in Scotland is a joke. It has certainly benefited us but for me it is extremely unfair on the lower league teams and is therefore not a level playing field. Better than none or do you fancy a straight relegation for second bottom and the play off just involving the 3 championship clubs similar to England ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 The SPFL are a total joke. Does anyone here have the remotest clue what has been "decided"? I know I fkn don't. That numbat Doncaster is getting £388k a year to preside over the most incompetent s**tshow this side of Westminster. Take your fkn old firm colts and ram them up your arse! And Mrs Budge take your bribes and share them with your new pals in the Championship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 My thoughts on Rangers proposal... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasboag Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 An 18 and a 24 would do me - no split, no nonsense - its good enough for 99% of leagues around the world so why do we think were any better? Spain have some absolute sh!te in their top league and we don't hear folk complaining about that Bin the league cup Revisit the Scottish Cup to create a season-long tournament with a groups at the start - but with everyone in it - lets get some variation in who we play each year and get some guaranteed income for smaller teams. After a first round though, straight knockout for several rounds to the final. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, dasboag said: An 18 and a 24 would do me - no split, no nonsense - its good enough for 99% of leagues around the world so why do we think were any better? Spain have some absolute sh!te in their top league and we don't hear folk complaining about that Bin the league cup Revisit the Scottish Cup to create a season-long tournament with a groups at the start - but with everyone in it - lets get some variation in who we play each year and get some guaranteed income for smaller teams. After a first round though, straight knockout for several rounds to the final. I agree with your 18 24 proposal but not binning the league cup as it deprives the smaller clubs , by 50% , the chance of a cup final win or appearance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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