Economic impact of Coronavirus

[Beaker71]

38 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

If you don’t like it here why don’t you go home/somewhere else.

copyright BNP, Nazis or any other nationalist group who don’t tolerate opposition. 

I dont recall the BNP, or even the Nazis advocating time travel!!

You really must read comments properly before posting your usual drivel and accusing me in particular of alignment with any extremist group.

[Scooter]

16 hours ago, Beaker71 said:

Geez peace with your scot hating man.  If you hate it soo much why not live to somewhere Labour are relevant, like the 1970s.

 

1 hour ago, Mclean07 said:

If you don’t like it here why don’t you go home/somewhere else.

 

Loves it here, just hates the other people that inhabit it... this site in microcosm and the country in general. 

[Scooter]

18 hours ago, Mclean07 said:

Folk aren’t just thinking about money, they’re thinking about ordinary people’s jobs. Long term, a huge increase in unemployment will do far more harm than Covid. 

It's gonna be a fine balancing act between controlling the spread of this virus and getting back to work... that's why the lockdown has to be eased slowly. Businesses will need to adapt to survive and the nature of others will mean unfortunately some won't make it.

If things don't stay the way they are, or we open too soon, then many people are warning the likelihood of a second wave increases, and if that happens then all bets are off business-wise.

So I'll ask you what I asked your wee pal, who in your family would you sacrifice so that the local hairdresser can open tomorrow?

Edited June 27, 2020 by Scooter

[Shropshire_killie]

18 hours ago, Mclean07 said:

Satire dies a little again as a Nationalist criticises someone for comparing their country with another country 

Away n flee your Dregin. My point was, it was ironic Williamson, rep of the UK govt boasting England ahead of NI in dealing with matters.  I dont think at any point I've said there has not been mistakes made across the UK but, as has been pointed out to you many times, a lot of matters are beyond the control of the devolved govts. Under Independence, would things have been better? I truly dont know. From what I can see, decisions currently being taken in Scotland and Wales,  going at a slower pace than England are very sensible at this stage given the scenes down in Dorset. 

[RAG]

1 hour ago, Shropshire_killie said:

From what I can see, decisions currently being taken in Scotland and Wales,  going at a slower pace than England are very sensible at this stage given the scenes down in Dorset. 

If you think that's bad, wait till you see the news next Sunday!  Pubs open on Saturday 4th July in England.  Anyone with even half a brain, wouldn't open pubs for the first time in 4 months, on a Saturday of all days.  Will be absolute carnage..

Edited June 27, 2020 by RAG

[gdevoy]

2 hours ago, RAG said:

If you think that's bad, wait till you see the news next Sunday!  Pubs open on Saturday 4th July in England.  Anyone with even half a brain, wouldn't open pubs for the first time in 4 months, on a Saturday of all days.  Will be absolute carnage..

I'm sure even after 4 or 5 Stellas  everybody will stay an absolute minimum of 1 m apart.

 

[RAG]

14 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

I'm sure even after 4 or 5 Stellas  everybody will stay an absolute minimum of 1 m apart.

Ma maws dug's called Stella!  Where you going for a night out?  South Korea?!

I liked Jacob Rees-Moggs wee quip about folk, 'going back to drinking a yard of ale' after lockdown.  Challenge accepted Mr JRM.  

In bevy, 1 yard = 1.4 litres, so even I won't be doing, The whole 9 yards in one sitting!

[Shropshire_killie]

28 minutes ago, RAG said:

Ma maws dug's called Stella!  Where you going for a night out?  South Korea?!

I liked Jacob Rees-Moggs wee quip about folk, 'going back to drinking a yard of ale' after lockdown.  Challenge accepted Mr JRM.  

In bevy, 1 yard = 1.4 litres, so even I won't be doing, The whole 9 yards in one sitting!

I'm very much looking forward to a good pint of well kept draught English Real Ale. I must confess, I prefer the English Ales to the Welsh and Scottish ales (uh.. oh....controversial!.), but will defo be avoiding Shrewsbury town centre! 

[RAG]

4 minutes ago, Shropshire_killie said:

I'm very much looking forward to a good pint of well kept draught English Real Ale. I must confess, I prefer the English Ales to the Welsh and Scottish ales (uh.. oh....controversial!.), but will defo be avoiding Shrewsbury town centre! 

I like all ales, although I usually go for a Budweiser Budvar as my beer of choice.

One the subject of yards of ale, former Aussie PM Bob Hawke once held the world record for necking a yard in 11 seconds, round the corner from where Bill Clinton, 'did not inhale'.  Two useless bits of political trivia in one there - I'm off to get a carry out!

The Turf was also the watering hole of Oscar Wilde during his time at Oxford, as well as where Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher drank. It was the place, reputedly, where Bill Clinton “did not inhale” from a marijuana joint.

However, the version of events laid down by Hawke in his memoirs insists the world record was set not at the Turf but at the nearby dining hall of University College, one of the constituent colleges of Oxford University where Hawke was a student, as an arcane punishment for failing to wear his academic gown to dinner.

“Some bastard had ‘borrowed’ mine,” Hawke wrote, and as a punishment he was “sconced”, forced to beat the “sconcemaster” in drinking from a pewter pot – equivalent to a yard glass – or face a fine.

“I was too broke for the fine and necessity became the mother of ingestion. I downed the contents of the pot in eleven seconds, left the sconcemaster floundering, and entered the Guinness Book of Records with the fastest time ever recorded.

“This feat was to endear me to some of my fellow Australians more than anything else I ever achieved.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/14/bob-hawke-could-be-set-for-an-oxford-blue-plaque-for-beer-drinking-record

[EKX16]

1 hour ago, Shropshire_killie said:

I'm very much looking forward to a good pint of well kept draught English Real Ale. I must confess, I prefer the English Ales to the Welsh and Scottish ales (uh.. oh....controversial!.), but will defo be avoiding Shrewsbury town centre! 

Over the years my sister has lived in villages near Chester and York and I loved going down to visit her. So many great pubs and so many new friendships.

[Prahakillie]

1 hour ago, RAG said:

I like all ales, although I usually go for a Budweiser Budvar as my beer of choice.

Good choice. 

My favourite having spent 9 months living in České Budějovice (aka Budweis) first time I came to Czech Republic. 

[Shropshire_killie]

3 hours ago, RAG said:

I like all ales, although I usually go for a Budweiser Budvar as my beer of choice.

One the subject of yards of ale, former Aussie PM Bob Hawke once held the world record for necking a yard in 11 seconds, round the corner from where Bill Clinton, 'did not inhale'.  Two useless bits of political trivia in one there - I'm off to get a carry out!

The Turf was also the watering hole of Oscar Wilde during his time at Oxford, as well as where Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher drank. It was the place, reputedly, where Bill Clinton “did not inhale” from a marijuana joint.

However, the version of events laid down by Hawke in his memoirs insists the world record was set not at the Turf but at the nearby dining hall of University College, one of the constituent colleges of Oxford University where Hawke was a student, as an arcane punishment for failing to wear his academic gown to dinner.

“Some bastard had ‘borrowed’ mine,” Hawke wrote, and as a punishment he was “sconced”, forced to beat the “sconcemaster” in drinking from a pewter pot – equivalent to a yard glass – or face a fine.

“I was too broke for the fine and necessity became the mother of ingestion. I downed the contents of the pot in eleven seconds, left the sconcemaster floundering, and entered the Guinness Book of Records with the fastest time ever recorded.

“This feat was to endear me to some of my fellow Australians more than anything else I ever achieved.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/14/bob-hawke-could-be-set-for-an-oxford-blue-plaque-for-beer-drinking-record

RAG! I worked in Oxford for ten years. I know the Turf! There are so many amazing pubs, The Trout, The Perch, The Eagle and Child (Tolkiens and CS Lewis's fav), I so loved it there. It was very English but also very cosmopolitan. You could speak to a university Professor or an Oxford Utd "common lad" in a pub.. Had many happy pub crawls there. Loved it so much but it was  very different from Scotland and my aspirations for my country. Randolph Hotel good if you want a treat and a regulat haunt of Inspector Morse! 

[RAG]

Brilliant @Shropshire_killie.  It's a small world.  I've Never been to Oxford, but I'd like to check it out.   'Very English but also very cosmopolitan' sounds like August in Edinburgh to me and I survived 17 of those no bother!  

[RAG]

3 hours ago, Prahakillie said:

Good choice. 

My favourite having spent 9 months living in České Budějovice (aka Budweis) first time I came to Czech Republic. 

Sure it tastes even better at 50p a pint too!

[Shropshire_killie]

18 minutes ago, RAG said:

Brilliant @Shropshire_killie.  It's a small world.  I've Never been to Oxford, but I'd like to check it out.   'Very English but also very cosmopolitan' sounds like August in Edinburgh to me and I survived 17 of those no bother!  

Go RAG! I played in a blues band around Oxfordshire and played footy in the county leagues. It's a great place and irrespective of McLeans views it is very much another country and deserves respect but quite different from our homeland in many respects

 

[RAG]

Check this out.   (Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality) 

Edited June 28, 2020 by RAG

[Scooter]

It's still bizarre that, as an island we were well placed to close our borders to incoming travellers to help cut the spread, like NZ & Oz did in March, but didn't, allowing travellers to enter unchecked.

[Prahakillie]

28 minutes ago, RAG said:

Check this out.   (Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality) 

World beating. 

[RAG]

13 minutes ago, Scooter said:

It's still bizarre that, as an island we ..

..are running at nearly DOUBLE the Irish death rate per 100,000 people!  (66 vs 36)

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by RAG

[gdevoy]

1 hour ago, RAG said:

Check this out.   (Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality) 

If you normalise the fatality rate against "per100,000 population" we are way ahead of very nearly every other country on the planet. but I believe Belgium comes out worse than the UK and they are not on that graph.

But I take your point that by any reasonable measure the UK has been worse hit in health terms by coronavirus than almost anywhere else in the world. How we will be hit economically remains to be seen. But none of this seems to have any impact on the governments popularity. They are "Getting Brexit Done" and a few rousing choruses of Land of Hope and Glory and everybody will be right as rain. I cant make any sense at all of the lack of  criticism from the public of BoJo's total incompetence. As long as he gets the pubs open he's a hero.

[RAG]

2 hours ago, gdevoy said:

If you normalise the fatality rate against "per100,000 population" we are way ahead of very nearly every other country on the planet. but I believe Belgium comes out worse than the UK and they are not on that graph.

But I take your point that by any reasonable measure the UK has been worse hit in health terms by coronavirus than almost anywhere else in the world. How we will be hit economically remains to be seen. But none of this seems to have any impact on the governments popularity. 

I think the point of that chart is comparing the UK and US' appealing figures with 3rd world, or developing nations, with little or no universal healthcare.

Belgium was about 85 per 100,000, highest in the world, but is also significantly smaller in both area and population than all countries in the chart, so is probably considered insignificant on a world level, being almost next door to the low German figures with Germany's population of 80m+.  Belgium is also at the very heart of Europe, European Parliament etc, so is different to an Island like ourselves, that's the reason why I drew the 'almost double' Ireland comparison.  

That said are a few different strains floating about.  The UK and US covid-19 strains are different, as is the clearly less deadly German strain.  So is a bit of an apples and pears comparison - unless you compare the UK to Ireland.

On popularity, apart from Sunak, there's has been a huge drop in all individuals in BoJo's gov's popularity since the Cummings affair - BoJo's especially has fallen off a cliff, hence why he's now resorting to desperate crap like press ups for an audience.

 

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by RAG

[gdevoy]

53 minutes ago, RAG said:

On popularity, apart from Sunak, there's has been a huge drop in all individuals in BoJo's gov's popularity since the Cummings affair - BoJo's especially has fallen off a cliff, hence why he's now resorting to desperate crap like press ups for an audience.

 

It seems any time BoJo does a photo op for the meeja he is inevitably draped in union flags. I cant remember any PM in my lifetime milking the Brit Nat vote apart from Hilda's Falklands adventure, quite like him. 

His incompetence, cowardice and nationalistic waffale all seem to be on an equal footing. 

[Killiepies]

Chancellor throwing money at the economy .(next PM BTW ).You would think he had copied John McDonalds budget .Money to hire apprentices ,money to take back furloughed staff,money for home improvements ,money getting thrown at almost everything to stop unemployment .I doubt even a socialist governed Scotland would be throwing so much tax payers cash about 

[Scooter]

Why not? These islands are rich and it makes a change from taking as much tax out of the public purse and stuffing private pockets with it.

Sunak is the only one of them who would get pass marks over the last few months, the rest are still charlatans, arsonists and yes-men with no clue what they're doing!

[Prahakillie]

1 minute ago, Scooter said:

makes a change from taking as much tax out of the public purse and stuffing private pockets with it.

don't be fooled.