Ngonge88 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bonbon19 said: We can always remember him for that goal , imo the highlight of his time here . Very much so. Fantastic goal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_Eck1979 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Fletch said: All 3 are far better than Wilson at the minute. Wilson could and probably will improve but you only need to look at that really bad game v St Mirren to see the drastic dip in quality when Wilson stepped in. It's pointless him hanging around here offering nothing when he has something to offer someone at a lower level. We could quite easily bring in someone who can offer more in that position than what we've got from Wilson over the past couple of seasons which is a shame because at one point he looked like he was going to be a real success. We can't even name a team with subs! We need bodies and like it or not some are simply going to be squad fillers. My point is that despite how badly we played at times last season there were certain players who had to be suspended (even played with light injuries) to miss a game and create an opening. Wilson had looked a prospect at one point but his chances have been restricted the last couple of years. Under Clarke you can understand why when we were playing so well, but under AA and AD certain players were awful and should have been dropped to give them a kick up the backside but we seen the same team weeks on end despite being awful. I understand him choosing to leave but I believe if we had managed him properly last year then we would still have one of our own in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, Wee_Eck1979 said: We can't even name a team with subs! We need bodies and like it or not some are simply going to be squad fillers. My point is that despite how badly we played at times last season there were certain players who had to be suspended (even played with light injuries) to miss a game and create an opening. Wilson had looked a prospect at one point but his chances have been restricted the last couple of years. Under Clarke you can understand why when we were playing so well, but under AA and AD certain players were awful and should have been dropped to give them a kick up the backside but we seen the same team weeks on end despite being awful. I understand him choosing to leave but I believe if we had managed him properly last year then we would still have one of our own in the squad. Some are going to be squad fillers and he's made it clear at Christmas that he wants to play. He's not going to hang around for the odd appearance if someone gets injured. He hasn't been mismanaged he just hasn't progressed enough to get in front of the guys who are playing. You now also have Ally Taylor breaking in, there's no saying where Wilson was going to be in the pecking order. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhigh Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 3:47 PM, DrewWylie said: Maybe like most of us he hates the bastards we'd up our game against everyone though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 hours ago, stewarty66 said: Unfair to single out the St Mirren game. Every Killie player was gash that day. None more so than our captain who played alongside Wilson. Correct. The only player with pass marks that day was the goalie. He saved us from a real hiding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 O’Donnell on the BBC website saying that he had options before which, while they are not off the table, have “dropped back a wee bit” because budgets are being reassessed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fudger Posted June 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, skygod said: O’Donnell on the BBC website saying that he had options before which, while they are not off the table, have “dropped back a wee bit” because budgets are being reassessed. Back you come Stephen, just sign up and we will all pretend this never happened. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Fudger said: Back you come Stephen, just sign up and we will all pretend this never happened. Absolutely, take him back in a heartbeat. I would however expect a tail between the legs comment from him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenwick Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Aye O'Donnell back up to McGowan, thats right back sorted..... now onto other areas of the team Edited June 8, 2020 by trenwick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcr0 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I had (wrongly) assumed he was already fixed up before he left. Taking a bit of a gamble here. Might be better off giving AD a call and eat some humble pie. Hopefully he hasn’t burned his bridges 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Who knows? It might just happen. He has turned down moves in the past because they were too far away so if he feels the same way then his options will be quite limited. I certainly don't think there are going to be any life changing deals on offer. I certainly would be pleased if things change and he stays but I still doubt that will happen. Edited June 8, 2020 by historyman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Scott Boyds considering to put the boots back on. Could be worth offering a short contract -11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Pride_of_ayrshire said: Scott Boyds considering to put the boots back on. Could be worth offering a short contract Need to be looking at younger players that we can build the team around and possibly sell in a few years like McGowan, Gogic, Fraser not another player in their mid 30's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Deano said: Need to be looking at younger players that we can build the team around and possibly sell in a few years like McGowan, Gogic, Fraser not another player in their mid 30's We need to be looking AT players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 That's true but you couldn't want for a more willing backup. Wether he's still good enough is another matter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 3:23 PM, Garvis said: 10 men against Dundee brilliant goal. Oh, come on; he ran sixty yards chasing the ball, never had it under control, lucked his way past two dreadful floppy tackles and toe-ended it into the net. If he'd been as lucky as that all the time, I'd have been glad to keep him. -13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, jasper said: Oh, come on; he ran sixty yards chasing the ball, never had it under control, lucked his way past two dreadful floppy tackles and toe-ended it into the net. If he'd been as lucky as that all the time, I'd have been glad to keep him. Who cares if it was a scrappy goal. A goals a goal and it won us the match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblue Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pride_of_ayrshire said: Who cares if it was a scrappy goal. A goals a goal and it won us the match. That wasn’t his point. His point was that Wilson wasn’t good enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvis Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, jasper said: Oh, come on; he ran sixty yards chasing the ball, never had it under control, lucked his way past two dreadful floppy tackles and toe-ended it into the net. If he'd been as lucky as that all the time, I'd have been glad to keep him. Have you just came out of hibernation, I was at the game an absolutely fantastic goal the place was jumping brilliant. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jasper said: Oh, come on; he ran sixty yards chasing the ball, never had it under control, lucked his way past two dreadful floppy tackles and toe-ended it into the net. If he'd been as lucky as that all the time, I'd have been glad to keep him. Lay off the vin rouge a bit please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdaw Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 With the amount of players who have left clubs , We should be able to build up a Squad. If we have less money than previous years then the quality will drop, I would prefer us to bring in younger player, Under 25 . This way we might find one or two who might improve as the season progresses. I don't think their would be much difference between a free transfer at 18-21 as their would be signing a journey man free at 28/31. I would think its easier to sign and younger player too. What the Club do need to do is start to grasp the complexities of a Transfer Window and figure out whats the Clubs vision is going forward. The last three windows have made us look very amateurish in this area , Failed signings, Lack of signings , Players signed not good enough, Lack of understanding in the admin side, Contracts allowed to lapse. If this Window continues along the same lines it is going to cause more problems long term. How does a Club progress if we have to rebuild every year. What is the Clubs strategy in the long term ? Is it to produce young players and bring them into the first Team. With a hope of selling for profit and then investing in the club. Is it survival ,season to season on a small budget on free transfers, Loan players but Higher wages small Squad. I don't really see a direction at the moment , I can see the Club progressing behind the scenes in other area's. These areas are all infrastructure and business oriented , Which is great , But its noticeable how quickly improvements were made because that is where our boards area of expertise is. But since Steve Clark left its easy to see the disorganisation of the playing staff. I feel the Club appointed AA with the expectation of , Their you go this playing side is all yours , We won't get involved. But we brought in a coach who was not skilled in the recruitment side , No real scouting setup and no admin experienced in contract negotiations. Fowler hopefully with all the free time and having had one window experience , will have sorted out how to do his job correctly and built up his infrastructure to help him in his role. What ever happens we will need to be patient , I think results this season will be inconsistent , I don't see Alex changing our style away from defensive counter attack. Apart from Celtic , I think Teams will all takes points off each other. For me sign up players under 25ish and think long term. Loan only quality players , not squad players. Not to many. It should not be an option to build up the numbers. Build up a Squad , Having players on the bench who will push for first team slots. Balance the squad , IE more than two strikers , Different options in Midfield, Creative and defensive , No left sided attackers is stupid. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bigdaw said: With the amount of players who have left clubs , We should be able to build up a Squad. If we have less money than previous years then the quality will drop, I would prefer us to bring in younger player, Under 25 . This way we might find one or two who might improve as the season progresses. I don't think their would be much difference between a free transfer at 18-21 as their would be signing a journey man free at 28/31. I would think its easier to sign and younger player too. What the Club do need to do is start to grasp the complexities of a Transfer Window and figure out whats the Clubs vision is going forward. The last three windows have made us look very amateurish in this area , Failed signings, Lack of signings , Players signed not good enough, Lack of understanding in the admin side, Contracts allowed to lapse. If this Window continues along the same lines it is going to cause more problems long term. How does a Club progress if we have to rebuild every year. What is the Clubs strategy in the long term ? Is it to produce young players and bring them into the first Team. With a hope of selling for profit and then investing in the club. Is it survival ,season to season on a small budget on free transfers, Loan players but Higher wages small Squad. I don't really see a direction at the moment , I can see the Club progressing behind the scenes in other area's. These areas are all infrastructure and business oriented , Which is great , But its noticeable how quickly improvements were made because that is where our boards area of expertise is. But since Steve Clark left its easy to see the disorganisation of the playing staff. I feel the Club appointed AA with the expectation of , Their you go this playing side is all yours , We won't get involved. But we brought in a coach who was not skilled in the recruitment side , No real scouting setup and no admin experienced in contract negotiations. Fowler hopefully with all the free time and having had one window experience , will have sorted out how to do his job correctly and built up his infrastructure to help him in his role. What ever happens we will need to be patient , I think results this season will be inconsistent , I don't see Alex changing our style away from defensive counter attack. Apart from Celtic , I think Teams will all takes points off each other. For me sign up players under 25ish and think long term. Loan only quality players , not squad players. Not to many. It should not be an option to build up the numbers. Build up a Squad , Having players on the bench who will push for first team slots. Balance the squad , IE more than two strikers , Different options in Midfield, Creative and defensive , No left sided attackers is stupid. Agree with most of the points made here with the exception of everyone other than Celtic taking points off each other. Sadly I see the gap between the OF and the rest getting even larger. They will be able to use cash reserves OR borrow more than the other teams to get themselves out of the mire. Clubs like us are going to need to take an extremely cautious approach to any sort of recruitment as nobody truly knows what the playing field will look like in 3, 6 and 12 months time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Pride_of_ayrshire said: Scott Boyds considering to put the boots back on. Could be worth offering a short contract @Gaz of the 20/20 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz of the 20/20 Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: @Gaz of the 20/20 Haha theres always one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Having less money as a club might not be as big an issue for getting new players. every club will be in same boat so player demands will need to drop. There’s been a tonne of players released who’ll want security so we might end up with a few guys who we’d would’ve normally been priced out of getting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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