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Easier to hide in a big crowd and we do not increase police and stewards in line with the numbers. Also as other people have posted , they supply their own 'stewards'.

Doesn't solve the problem, particularly if duplicate tickets are being used. It can work at Hearts because they have reduced away supporters down to manageable numbers.

We probably don't have the hand held scanners linked to the system to do secondary checks. At previous games against the ugly sisters they have claimed our system has failed when the truth is almost certainly the multiple use of copied tickets. To deal with this you need diversion routes in the barriers and plenty of people. The sad truth is that the supporters of these teams know that they can usually overwhelm the local arrangements and that the police don't intervene.

I think Connahs Quay was an almost unique set of circumstances in that it was being played in a tiny stadium but for a European game it was relatively easy to get to.

No Hearts games and currently nothing on the last day of the season. I suppose if the title is not settled by then they will probably show both the Glasgow games.

On Saturday at St Johnstone a few of the locals were saying it was common knowledge that they were expecting to host some Dundee home games before the end of the season. There were mixed opinions among them on the issue based on the expected behaviour of the Dundee supporters.

I don't see him voluntarily going for the operation before the end of the season. I think being our captain really means something too him , he is always taking the lead in acknowledging the fans, he runs himself to a standstill and fights for every ball. He seems totally committed to the club , his teammates and his manager.

You never really know how good a manager has been until they are gone. SC squeezed every last drop out of his squad to finish third but it was very much that groups peak. With DM we are getting close to that peak but I feel that everything in the background is getting better and that with that support the team can go higher. The SC team was always going to struggle to without , Bachmann, Taylor, O'Donnell and with the number of players who were at the end of their careers. DMs legacy will really be about next season , if he can continue the improvement then he goes above SC. At the moment the key is keeping DM and keeping this period in the club's history going.

They went in to the ground in front of us . They were very patient with the security staff who were quite officious with them , although they did stress it was because of the flare incident at the St Johnstone, Dundee game. Well done to the lads being organised and getting in early and well done for keeping the atmosphere going from well before the start to long after the end.

That would be an ideal situation for the club. Two games where we would be favourites to win. None of the hassle of dealing with the ugly sisters. Hearts would probably fill the Chadwick and we could run a special for the Dundee game to get a maximum home support and a maximum number of young supporters there. Playing these two games would give us a chance to celebrate what has been achieved tis season.

I have posted very similar posts in the past. However the crowd numbers suggest that when we play these teams a significant number of our season ticket holders still do not attend and until the behaviours are changed this will not improve. It is not just us, at our game against Hearts there were very few seats empty in the stand where they now restrict away support, the week before against Celtic almost half of the home seats were empty. Some of our season ticket holders will also acquire tickets for their supporters in the home stands, will action be taken when this happens. Supporters will always want to follow their team there have been numerous regular contributors on here advocate buying home end tickets when there is too much demand for our allocation, Connahs Quay, QOS, St. Mirren, being examples in recent seasons. If one of the ugly sisters is playing their last game of the season at Rugby park their supporters will attend in significant numbers whether they have tickets or not and experience shows Police Scotland will not want to do anything about it, beyond probably instructing the club to open a hate because of the crush outside. My original post was simply about the money, and based on the assumption that if we were secure in fourth it is likely only around half of our season ticket holders would even attend the gam. With the extra January signings this year We will almost certainly be at least £650,000 over budget. Hopefully our directors will , as they have for the last few seasons convert the debt to shares, but at some point the club needs to break even. We will potentially have the added cost of a new pitch at the end next season, so if we do not reach the European group games the loss will be over £1m.

And the officials were biased because they were all green.

I was simply responding to a post that asked if we had a strategy if we were in the position of hosting one of the ugly sisters in the last game of the season if the title race is still live. Based on the assumption that we will be safely sitting in fourth with no chance of anyone overtaking us, I suggested we should screw the maximum amount of money out of the game that we could. In the secure knowledge that a significant number of our own season ticket holders would probably not even attend the game. Under normal circumstances I am 100% behind our boards decision to restrict the number of away supporters allowed in, in fact I have previously suggested that I would only allow them the back of the Chadwick if they continued to come on to the glorious plastic, presumably just to test how dangerous it is. This post was entirely based on 'can we make an extra £250k out of the last game of the season. I hope we don't play one of them in our last home game because our players , management team and board deserve the right to celebrate our season at the last game and to get the chance to share that with the Killie fans, something that will probably not happen if the opposition support is celebrating a league win or mourning coming second . I don't mind most of the are you mad responses , because it is an awful, money only , idea. I did object to the one that said I was probably not a Killie fan, especially as I have stumped up nearly £400 this week on hotels , train and a ticket for the game at St Johnstone .

If this scenario is what happens how much pressure would the SPFL put on the hosting clubs to ensure full houses The response in this thread to my hypothetical scenario, where we are safe in fourth suggests we would not increase ticket allocations. Hibs are on record that their allocation to the ugly sisters will be halved. The recent Hearts Celtic game highlighted that home supporters still avoid these games, the stand was full when Killie played Hearts. If the games are set to get them in to the bigger stadiums then the SPFL will want tickets to be sold and stands to be full on TV

The average home support at a game against either of the bigots is around 4000. My argument is that if we were secure in fourth their attendance would mean we would not be able to celebrate the achievement anyway and it is possible the home support might even, in these circumstances be less than 3000. So why not max the income to pay for the following season.