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    Nationalists Joy at Scottish Job Losses

    I don't think you've ever had a point... ever!
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    What about the other 52%? (bad math joke)
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    Interesting article from Fintan O’Toole: Historians will not believe the sheer ignorance of Brexit supporters' https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-historians-will-not-believe-sheer-ignorance-of-brexit-supporters-1.3695347?mode=amp When historians try to understand how Britain ended up with a choice between chaos and becoming a satellite of the European Union, one question will stump them. Were these people telling deliberate lies or were they merely staggeringly ignorant? Where does mendacity stop and idiocy begin? Historians generally have to assume that people in power have a basic grasp of what they are doing, that their actions are intentional. They may use deception as a tactic and they may be deluded in what they think they can achieve. But they must, at least at the beginning, have some grasp on reality – otherwise they would not have achieved power. Yet, for the poor historians trying to make sense of Brexit, this assumption will be mistaken. There is, of course, plenty of straightforward mendacity for them to identify. Boris Johnson’s whole journalistic and political career has been driven by his talent for taking minor regulations and distorting them into wildly exaggerated claims of oppression by the Eurocrats. This can’t be done by mistake. For example, you cannot by accident take, as Johnson did, a Council of Europe (not EU) convention on the repatriation of corpses and turn it into a repeated claim that “There really is European legislation on the weight, dimensions and composition of a coffin”. There isn’t. This is not ignorance – it is a knowing falsification of the truth. So let’s leave that aside. Historians will know it when they see it. A spotter’s guide Their problem will be, rather, with the shades of obliviousness. Here our future scholars will have to try to distinguish between three kinds of ignorance: deliberate unknowing, crass self-delusion and what we can only call pig ignorance. So, for their benefit, here is a brief spotter’s guide. Deliberate unknowing is when you are fully aware of something but then choose to suppress that consciousness. A good example is Theresa May speaking about the Irish border on June 21st 2016, just two days before the referendum: “Just think about it. If we are out of the European Union with tariffs on exporting goods into the EU, there’d have to be something to recognise that, between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. And if you pulled out of the EU and came out of free movement, then how could you have a situation where there was an open border with a country that was in the EU and has access to free movement?” So she knew full well that a Brexit that involved leaving the customs union would create a hard border. And then, as prime minister, she insisted on the opposite: that a hard Brexit was perfectly compatible with no return of a hard border. She unknew what she had known. Crass self-delusion is when you start with an ideological premise that you believe to be true even though it isn’t and then draw apparently reasonable conclusions from it. Thus, for example, David Davis sincerely believed the EU is just a front for German domination of Europe. Hence he also believed quite genuinely that the Brexit negotiations would be conducted not with Brussels but over a convivial weissbräu and schnitzel in Berlin and that frictionless trade would be decreed immediately because the German car manufacturers wished it so: sincerely fatuous self-delusion. Village idiot And then there’s pig ignorance – the genuine hallmarked, unadulterated, slack-jawed, open-mouthed, village idiot variety in which the people who are in charge of the British state don’t know stuff that anyone off Gogglebox could tell them. The Brexiteer MP Nadine Dorries admitted in effect that she didn’t know what a customs union is. Her comrade Andrew Bridgen said last month: “As an English person, I do have the right to go over to Ireland and I believe that I can ask for a passport. Can’t I?” Karen Bradley, the actual secretary of state for Northern Ireland, said:“I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn’t understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland. I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa.” And last week the actual Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab: “I hadn’t quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing.” Crass self-delusion What’s charming about this is that Bradley and Raab’s ignorance is publicly self-proclaimed. It’s not just that they didn’t know basic stuff, it’s that they didn’t think there was anything shameful in not knowing. This is the purest form of ignorance: it’s not just that you don’t know, but that you don’t even know that you’re meant to know. Historians will in time get to the bottom of the deliberate unknowing and the crass self-delusion. They can be charted. But this pure pig ignorance, innocent and unalloyed, is unfathomable. It will be impossible not to conclude that it was all part of some great strategic plan, that, if only we could plumb its depths, we could reveal the hidden truth of Brexit. How will they ever believe that the hidden truth is so asinine?
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    How she gets this thing through parliament depends on how chaotic the 'Opposition' position is... do we go for something rubbish but not absolutely disastrous because we close down the position of absolutely disastrous... a Hollywood scriptwriter could not make this sh!t up!! Btw, tell me a time when anyone at Westminster DID give a flying stuff what the outlying provinces and countries thought.
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    Nationalists Joy at Scottish Job Losses

    You do know how to start a new topic, I presume? You're free to talk about anything you choose, or not as the case may be. Reasonable discussion is always welcome, unreasonable "festering boils of hate, rage, and impotence" can jog on. Suppose though, just like the Holyrood contingent, there's a severe dearth of talent in the Slab/Scon supporters union that doesn't look like changing anytime soon.
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    Nationalists Joy at Scottish Job Losses

    f**kin hell, cry into your pillow a bit more!! You made the subject about "opposing views'' then don't like the replies. Tough titty. Everyone is free or not to post whatever they want, not what YOU want Get over yersel wee man.
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    Nationalists Joy at Scottish Job Losses

    Dry yer eyes wee man... SNPBad again eh? Loads of it all over Twitter but if that's where you get all your news, that'll be all you're fed... same old tune from the old fiddler. Remember this...? I wonder if you're still laughing, but then the prejudiced in denial always try to reflect their true inclinations...
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    Raab was an empty suit... how can the Brexit Secy. resign over a deal he's supposedly just negotiated?
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    If anyone was in any doubt the Tories only care about themselves and hoarding power at any cost, then this shambles of a Brexit Agreement should relieve these doubts once and for all. A second or 'decision' referendum is not a priortity for Corbyn and he has shown he isn't interested in being any sort of meaningful Opposition. Wee Nicky should fire the starting gun on Indyref 2 first thing in the morning! She has the mandate and it's clear Scotland isn't an equal partner in this island union.
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    Next up Perth

    Will be first time in years at McDairmid for us, combined with a wee overnight in the city... can't miss joining the troops and the team need all the support they can get.  Should be a tight game, this St. Johnstone team have been quietly climbing up behind us... mon the Killie!
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    Celebrity Deaths 2018

    Stan Lee is now as immortal as the heroes he created. For folk into the Marvel comics, you can appreciate the imagination, the art and the artistry... but the films are complete guff..!!
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    US Midterms Predictions/Chat

    Another? First time for everything. The point stands, even Noddy could've predicted wot woz being predicted by everyone else... a limb was not exactly gone out on here.
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    US Midterms Predictions/Chat

    Bite me!
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    US Midterms Predictions/Chat

    Everyone claiming victory... woohoo \/
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    US Midterms Predictions/Chat

    So, same as most pollsters and commentators were predicting... not exactly Nosferatu-esque proportions that one! Maybe if you'd given us something more specific, like what big beasts were gonna get their sandwiches handed to them in a road map or if we we're gonna see the first black female governor, you'd have given us something to work with.

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