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7 hours ago, Mclean07 said:

I’m not sure how you work out it’s blind loyalty. We renew because most of us love going to see Killie with our friends/relatives, usually no matter what. It’s not a big favour or a one way street for most people. As far as affordability is concerned, there will certainly be people struggling, but I can’t imagine any more so than in booming Motherwell. 

They had a good season whereas ours which included that s**t show against the taffs was poor , and the no free under 16s won’t help 

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Now that free U16s have been removed - how many ST would we need to sell to equal last years revenue? 

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33 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

We are paying off staff so I think folk are going to be in for shock if they think we're going to be signing players right left and centre with less than 2000 season tickets sold.

What staff are being payed off?

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27 minutes ago, piffer said:

What staff are being payed off?

Non football staff but obvs we're watching cash on that front too, hence why Millen is assisting Dyer.

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The free under 16 ticket doesn't really cost the club revenue, it's not like giving the free ticket was costing the club out of a sale due to amount of people wanting to attend and limited seats being available to sell. 

it's just a good bit of PR as original season ticket holder gets a bit of a perk of free season ticket and the recipient of free under 16 ticket it sows the seeds of going to football and more importantly watching and supporting Killie.  

So the amount of season tickets to equal revenue only really applies to sold season tickets so depended on take up because of each fans personal circumstances will determine the final amount sold. 

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2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

We are paying off staff so I think folk are going to be in for shock if they think we're going to be signing players right left and centre with less than 2000 season tickets sold.

Wigan Athletic have just gone into administration, citing the significant effect of Covid-19.

 

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The value of season ticket purchases ( 20 %??)  is overstated and clearly most of the income comes from other revenue streams , sponsorship , tv , gate money from walk ins etc.. Closed door games and the overall impact is of much greater significance re budget than season ticket sales 

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2 hours ago, piffer said:

What staff are being payed off?

Hospitality, tea bar staff and some others I believe. It's not nice to see anyone lose their job but there's obviously no hospitality or tea bars while there are no fans. Hopefully it's on the basis that the jobs will be there for them when the fans are back.

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On 6/30/2020 at 11:42 AM, Skora11 said:

If we can get 3,000 season ticket holders I think that would be decent enough. Considering no free U16’s attached.

Last year's total was 4,214, up from 3,513.

I assume these numbers include freebies.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, eagle10g1 said:

The value of season ticket purchases ( 20 %??)  is overstated and clearly most of the income comes from other revenue streams , sponsorship , tv , gate money from walk ins etc.. Closed door games and the overall impact is of much greater significance re budget than season ticket sales 

Season ticket sales provide much needed cash flow at a point in time when there are no walk ups and a hugely important part of a clubs revenue.  Especially when cash is needed for player acquisition.  This season they are more important than ever.  

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13 minutes ago, skygod said:

Last year's total was 4,214, up from 3,513.

I assume these numbers include freebies.

 

 

It would be interesting even to have a guesstimate of the freebies as that would give us a comparable number to aim for. I would guess it would be quite a substantial amount. We had three with five full seasons tickets. May be as little as 3000 paid tickets out of 4200. 

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3 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

It would be interesting even to have a guesstimate of the freebies as that would give us a comparable number to aim for. I would guess it would be quite a substantial amount. We had three with five full seasons tickets. May be as little as 3000 paid tickets out of 4200. 

That what was my thinking also which is why I reckon getting to 3000 would be a success in the current climate. 

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My guess would be 60% adults 20% over 60s/students 20% kids 

4200 tickets last season. If we keep similar numbers.

2520 adults at £370 = £932400 

840 concessions at £220 = £184800
840 kids = £0

Some folk will have bought kids tickets and Moffat stand etc but it’s most likely over £1million in revenue.

shows how important season ticket sales are to the club.

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1 minute ago, PrestersKtid said:

My guess would be 60% adults 20% over 60s/students 20% kids 

4200 tickets last season. If we keep similar numbers.

2520 adults at £370 = £932400 

840 concessions at £220 = £184800
840 kids = £0

Some folk will have bought kids tickets and Moffat stand etc but it’s most likely over £1million in revenue.

shows how important season ticket sales are to the club.

After VAT it would be under a mil but still a substantial amount. Going on the figures above I think the aim should be 3,000.

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1 hour ago, eagle10g1 said:

The value of season ticket purchases ( 20 %??)  is overstated and clearly most of the income comes from other revenue streams , sponsorship , tv , gate money from walk ins etc.. Closed door games and the overall impact is of much greater significance re budget than season ticket sales 

Now more than ever, season ticket sales are massively important.

To say they are overstated is bizarre.

Is the TV deal overstated as it was roughly the same sort of income as season tickets.

Think 8th got us £1.375m and season ticket sales would have not have been far off that.

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3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Non football staff but obvs we're watching cash on that front too, hence why Millen is assisting Dyer.

And then there is the cut backs on the playing side with smaller first team squad as well as reserve/ development cut backs too 

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26 minutes ago, Scouser2 said:

And then there is the cut backs on the playing side with smaller first team squad as well as reserve/ development cut backs too 

Can't see there being any reserve league, the first team squad will be all there is apart from youth teams. 

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3 hours ago, Scouser2 said:

And then there is the cut backs on the playing side with smaller first team squad as well as reserve/ development cut backs too 

Also minus the matchday costs of security/stewards, police, matchday bar staff etc.....

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I have seen multiple meeja rumours that crowds will be allowed back inside grounds for the start of the season. It seems like Ceptic, the Sheep and others are trying to "bounce" the authorities into it.

Then I read a response from a government heath advisor which basically said "in your dreams".

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22 hours ago, trenwick said:

The free under 16 ticket doesn't really cost the club revenue, it's not like giving the free ticket was costing the club out of a sale due to amount of people wanting to attend and limited seats being available to sell. 

it's just a good bit of PR as original season ticket holder gets a bit of a perk of free season ticket and the recipient of free under 16 ticket it sows the seeds of going to football and more importantly watching and supporting Killie.  

So the amount of season tickets to equal revenue only really applies to sold season tickets so depended on take up because of each fans personal circumstances will determine the final amount sold. 

As has been mentioned many times before, the club are going to be charged by the live match broadcaster(s) for every season ticket issued. Hence the decision not to issue free U16 seasons which would mean a cost to the club. If you have a season ticket, I expect any U16s will be watching these broadcasts with you anyway.

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26 minutes ago, KillkieBoab said:

As has been mentioned many times before, the club are going to be charged by the live match broadcaster(s) for every season ticket issued. Hence the decision not to issue free U16 seasons which would mean a cost to the club. If you have a season ticket, I expect any U16s will be watching these broadcasts with you anyway.

I might well be wrong here but why didn’t the club just not refrain from issuing the kids tickets until the point when they are allowed to attend games?

that way they wouldn’t need to pay for any live match broadcast.

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5 minutes ago, Richaway said:

I might well be wrong here but why didn’t the club just not refrain from issuing the kids tickets until the point when they are allowed to attend games?

that way they wouldn’t need to pay for any live match broadcast.

They might be doing that just not making it public. If Sky know it’s going to happen they may try to make things difficult.

Unfortunately through the process some people will have payed out for a kids ticket. I wouldn’t expect kids to be paying into RP if they are with a season ticket holder when fans return

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Hopefully we will get it confirmed soon how the Streaming will work as well as any agreements arranged for away games ....

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