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Meeting to be held on Monday in England about the possibility of playing matches behind closed doors in the next couple of weeks. 'If'that happens there, difficult to see Scotland not following suit. 9 matches still to be played this season in the League...would certainly be much better to complete the season if possible, and if it comes to this.(might only be 5 or 6 still to play if a closed door scenario comes into play). The SPFL would surely have to make some sort of payment to all clubs to make up for the loss of gate money.

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12 minutes ago, Jedi2 said:

The SPFL would surely have to make some sort of payment to all clubs to makeup for the loss of gate money.

Where would the money come from? 

Selling live TV rights for every match, with staggered kick-off dates and times? 

The SPFL itself won't have much money. 

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Folk saying Sevco are heavily dependent on gate money to keep them afloat.  If this is true and the games are to be played behind closed doors then the Coronavirus could actually kill Sevco.

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1 hour ago, Shortie said:

New World Order!

Hopefully wipe out a few of the tims and huns and the great unwashed to the south.

Joke btw

There’s the funny handshakes as well.....

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7 minutes ago, Garvis said:

Folk saying Sevco are heavily dependent on gate money to keep them afloat.  If this is true and the games are to be played behind closed doors then the Coronavirus could actually kill Sevco.

Would closed door games be able to be screened live, by the highest bidder? No 3pm uk/ireland restrictions as attendances wouldn't be harmed, as they'd be zero.

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1 minute ago, CB said:

Would closed door games be able to be screened live, by the highest bidder? No 3pm uk/ireland restrictions as attendances wouldn't be harmed, as they'd be zero.

You would like to think something would be put in place .

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1 hour ago, skygod said:

Seemingly, it can’t survive in hot climates. 

The number of cases in the Southern Hemisphere generally is very low, I think I’m right in saying. 

 

Singapore is a steady 35 to 36C all year round and it's pretty prevalent there.  It may be the dry heat of the African continent and potentially outside of the major connurbationa people are sparsely populated too.

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1 hour ago, skygod said:

Seemingly, it can’t survive in hot climates. 

The number of cases in the Southern Hemisphere generally is very low, I think I’m right in saying. 

 

 

It can definitely survive in hot climates, although it is thought to survive for a shorter period on surfaces in humid conditions. The reason there are only a few reported cases in sub Saharan Africa is probably because they haven't tested for it. 

Australia are making plans to triple ICU capacity and cancel elective surgery if required. There have been a couple of deaths here already and I suspect we're 2-3 months away from a major outbreak. 

Edited by fraz65

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Old codgers banned from attending Premier League games. Actually seems quite sensible. 

Also started doing silly elbow bang instead of handshakes. Even though that's where they tell you to sneeze into to

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7 minutes ago, Pompey Exile said:

Old codgers banned from attending Premier League games. Actually seems quite sensible. 

Also started doing silly elbow bang instead of handshakes. Even though that's where they tell you to sneeze into to

Over 70s. Roy Hodgson is 72...

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17 hours ago, Beaker71 said:

IMO this is over the top, at the moment.  Just now we actually have less people with the coronavirus than normal  seasonal flu, which is also down considerably in numbers on previous years.  Of course there is the potential, but so did SARS and bird flu, and even CJD.

I think this could be the warning on a pandemic, but this ain't the actual one.

As has been explained, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is ten times that of the seasonal flu. 

SARS had a mortality rate of 10% but people were generally not infectious prior to getting symptoms. This is generally the case with viral infections with a high mortality rate (e.g. Ebola), making them much easier to contain. 

The worrying feature of COVID-19 is that it combines a reasonably high mortality rate with asymptomatic infectivity. It's likely that this will be the worst global pandemic since the Spanish flu of 1918.

Nobody has predicted an existential threat at any stage, and that is beside the point. The death rate will be between hundreds of thousands and tens of millions, with a resultant global recession. 

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9 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

As has been explained, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is ten times that of the seasonal flu. 

SARS had a mortality rate of 10% but people were generally not infectious prior to getting symptoms. This is generally the case with viral infections with a high mortality rate (e.g. Ebola), making them much easier to contain. 

The worrying feature of COVID-19 is that it combines a reasonably high mortality rate with asymptomatic infectivity. It's likely that this will be the worst global pandemic since the Spanish flu of 1918.

Nobody has predicted an existential threat at any stage, and that is beside the point. The death rate will be between hundreds of thousands and tens of millions, with a resultant global recession. 

You need a lie down.

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17 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

As has been explained, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is ten times that of the seasonal flu. 

SARS had a mortality rate of 10% but people were generally not infectious prior to getting symptoms. This is generally the case with viral infections with a high mortality rate (e.g. Ebola), making them much easier to contain. 

The worrying feature of COVID-19 is that it combines a reasonably high mortality rate with asymptomatic infectivity. It's likely that this will be the worst global pandemic since the Spanish flu of 1918.

Nobody has predicted an existential threat at any stage, and that is beside the point. The death rate will be between hundreds of thousands and tens of millions, with a resultant global recession. 

It’s this sort of s**te that results in hysteria and panic buying

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25 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

You need a lie down.

The mortality rate from seasonal flu is several hundred thousand a year. 

What was it that you objected to in my post?

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2 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

The mortality rate from seasonal flu is several hundred thousand a year. 

What was it that you objected to in my post?

I'm guessing it was the comparison between Spanish Flu and the hygiene habits, living conditions, hospital conditions and diet/nutrition of 1918 and comparing that to the same factors today. 

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6 minutes ago, Lions13 said:

I'm guessing it was the comparison between Spanish Flu and the hygiene habits, living conditions, hospital conditions and diet/nutrition of 1918 and comparing that to the same factors today. 

It would be a real step forward if people actually read what is posted rather than making things up. 

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11 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

The mortality rate from seasonal flu is several hundred thousand a year. 

What was it that you objected to in my post?

Your comment on the estimated death toll from covid19 is absolutely fantasy.  Any global recession will not be from a death tool.or even a detailed impact on trade, it will be politically driven.

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6 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

It would be a real step forward if people actually read what is posted rather than making things up. 

"The worrying feature of COVID-19 is that it combines a reasonably high mortality rate with asymptomatic infectivity. It's likely that this will be the worst global pandemic since the Spanish flu of 1918." Fraz65, 7-3-20

You mentioned the 1918 Spanish Flu. Why?  There have been a number of dramatic changes since 1918.

Nobody including the WHO had made the prediction you have made. 

I do hope you are wrong, not in a "I told you so" way,  but rather that the media's overreaction (at this time) doesn't become a reality. 

 

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3 hours ago, Beaker71 said:

Your comment on the estimated death toll from covid19 is absolutely fantasy.  Any global recession will not be from a death tool.or even a detailed impact on trade, it will be politically driven.

It's not "absolute fantasy", it's based on expert models and reflects what the Chief Medical Officer told the Parliamentary Health Select Committee earlier this week. 

100,000 known cases, 3,000 deaths. The issue is that we don't know the denominator (how many people who have the virus but aren't tested) so we have to rely on epidemiological modelling. 

A global recession will partly be driven by fear, but it will mainly occur due to insufficient supply and demand.

Lower manufacturing in Asia, lower demand for tourism, lost working hours etc. 

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3 hours ago, Lions13 said:

"The worrying feature of COVID-19 is that it combines a reasonably high mortality rate with asymptomatic infectivity. It's likely that this will be the worst global pandemic since the Spanish flu of 1918." Fraz65, 7-3-20

You mentioned the 1918 Spanish Flu. Why?  There have been a number of dramatic changes since 1918.

Nobody including the WHO had made the prediction you have made. 

I do hope you are wrong, not in a "I told you so" way,  but rather that the media's overreaction (at this time) doesn't become a reality. 

 

I'm not sure where you are getting your news from but it has been a fairly widespread opinion that this could be the worst global respiratory viral pandemic in 100 years. 

The estimated mortality rate is 1%, which is ten times that of Influenza A. The basic reproduction rate is around 2, meaning that every infected person infects on average two others. This means that it is more infectious and also much more deadly than seasonal 'flu. 

Public Health expert Dr. Richard Halkett has stated that this is the most frightening viral disease that he has faced in his career (see below).

In Australia we are preparing for a worst-case scenario of an additional 2,500 ICU beds a day.

There's also the possibility that COVID-19 will become endemic in the human population and become an additional seasonal respiratory illness.  

 

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8 minutes ago, fraz65 said:

I'm not sure where you are getting your news from but it has been a fairly widespread opinion that this could be the worst global respiratory viral pandemic in 100 years. 

The estimated mortality rate is 1%, which is ten times that of Influenza A. The basic reproduction rate is around 2, meaning that every infected person infects on average two others. This means that it is more infectious and also much more deadly than seasonal 'flu. 

Public Health expert Dr. Richard Halkett has stated that this is the most frightening viral disease that he has faced in his career (see below).

In Australia we are preparing for a worst-case scenario of an additional 2,500 ICU beds a day.

There's also the possibility that COVID-19 will become endemic in the human population and become an additional seasonal respiratory illness.  

 

"Could" be the worst global respiratory viral pandemic in 100 years.

I remember similar comments made about viruses in the last couple of decades.

I'll stick with the opinion of me ex colleagues specialising in Respiratory Conditions and those that work at the University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research. 

Things may change over the next few weeks. They may not. Guess we'll wait and see, but building a fort out of toilet paper and bathing in hand sanitizer isn't required yet.

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